I rather think you may have missed the irony in that post. I hope so, anyway.
I want your cash
- Thread starter derf
- Start date
You are having a laugh. I remember your other thread and you just came across as a cheap, arrogant person who wanted a maid to say they had a maid. Why did you repost now? It is all very strange. Why don't you just get on with living your life in Indonesia. Sounds like you are bored and restless.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Sorry to say Derf that you do come across as a bit of a tosser in this thread. Easily done, i sometimes come across as a tosser too and no doubt will get shouted down for defending you a bit, which i what I'm about to do.
1. Since when is it a crime to want to retire early? I'd love to be able to retire early myself but will no doubt have to work like a dog until i'm 65. Instead of really experiencing life earlier being a slave to the wage.
If you do retire early then the money you have is effectly your pension and has to last. Do people really expect pensioners to charitably support others out of limited incomes?
2. Just £4. What is the UK equivalent to £4 in Indonesia? £20? How many of the people shouting him down for not paying £4 a week shell out £80 a month themselves to charity?
3. Say he pays for this child. What about the next and the next? Is he responsable for all the children in Indonesia? Since when did poverty in the country become his responsability? He might not be giving away something for nothing but he is helping out that family by providing employment. Employment that I bet they are grateful for and that other families would kill for. Its a shame that this is the case but once again its not his fault the country he lives in is like that. He didn't cause the situation even if he is benefiting from it.
4. Is it wrong to move to a poor country so that you can retire early. You are benefiting from their poverty. But then they are benefiting from money being channeled into the economy from a wealthier country. Its is mutually beneficial and not totally one sided. To be honest with rip off britain the way it is more and more retirement money is going to go out the country this way.
5. Maids. I don't really see why you need a maid if you are retired. Not unless the wife and yourself is ill or something. It is rather an indulgance but there again if you've earnt your money over the years and want to spend it on that particular indulgance instead of say a posher car or drugs or booze or whatever than thats upto you I think. Its not the indulgence i would pick or many others on here but i can see the attraction of never having to do housework. Are we not allowed indulgences on Urban now? Who has the right to say how we can or can't spend our money so long as it isn't on things that cause real misery to others like child porn or supporting terrorism or something.
6. How many people shouting him down sponsor a child? There are plenty of charities out there that you can do this via. I suggest this as an alternative to Derf pimping for money (even though he ain't serious).
I do sponsor a child by the way, direct from my rubbish salary, that will stop when i retire. I tithe money to 3 charities direct from my salary as i know that more of my money has a chance of reaching the beneficiaries that way that giving to doorstep people or tin carriers (who all take a very large cut). Plus the government have to match my contributions that way too through gift aid.
1. Since when is it a crime to want to retire early? I'd love to be able to retire early myself but will no doubt have to work like a dog until i'm 65. Instead of really experiencing life earlier being a slave to the wage.
If you do retire early then the money you have is effectly your pension and has to last. Do people really expect pensioners to charitably support others out of limited incomes?
2. Just £4. What is the UK equivalent to £4 in Indonesia? £20? How many of the people shouting him down for not paying £4 a week shell out £80 a month themselves to charity?
3. Say he pays for this child. What about the next and the next? Is he responsable for all the children in Indonesia? Since when did poverty in the country become his responsability? He might not be giving away something for nothing but he is helping out that family by providing employment. Employment that I bet they are grateful for and that other families would kill for. Its a shame that this is the case but once again its not his fault the country he lives in is like that. He didn't cause the situation even if he is benefiting from it.
4. Is it wrong to move to a poor country so that you can retire early. You are benefiting from their poverty. But then they are benefiting from money being channeled into the economy from a wealthier country. Its is mutually beneficial and not totally one sided. To be honest with rip off britain the way it is more and more retirement money is going to go out the country this way.
5. Maids. I don't really see why you need a maid if you are retired. Not unless the wife and yourself is ill or something. It is rather an indulgance but there again if you've earnt your money over the years and want to spend it on that particular indulgance instead of say a posher car or drugs or booze or whatever than thats upto you I think. Its not the indulgence i would pick or many others on here but i can see the attraction of never having to do housework. Are we not allowed indulgences on Urban now? Who has the right to say how we can or can't spend our money so long as it isn't on things that cause real misery to others like child porn or supporting terrorism or something.
6. How many people shouting him down sponsor a child? There are plenty of charities out there that you can do this via. I suggest this as an alternative to Derf pimping for money (even though he ain't serious).
I do sponsor a child by the way, direct from my rubbish salary, that will stop when i retire. I tithe money to 3 charities direct from my salary as i know that more of my money has a chance of reaching the beneficiaries that way that giving to doorstep people or tin carriers (who all take a very large cut). Plus the government have to match my contributions that way too through gift aid.
I think you miss the point.
If he can employ a child as maid but not pay at the same time for her education (and how is she going to school when she has a job at his house?) then he has the choice to pay for her education and do his cleaning or whatever she does himself.
Instead he posts a thread suggesting that U75 posers should feel guilty because he wants a child as his maid.
A joke, surely?
salaam.
* expect now any time Yuwipi Woman to pop up to say I should sell my violin*
If he can employ a child as maid but not pay at the same time for her education (and how is she going to school when she has a job at his house?) then he has the choice to pay for her education and do his cleaning or whatever she does himself.
Instead he posts a thread suggesting that U75 posers should feel guilty because he wants a child as his maid.
A joke, surely?
salaam.
* expect now any time Yuwipi Woman to pop up to say I should sell my violin*
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Drat i was hoping no one would post before i could my follow up post which is the slagging Derf off post. I don't see everything as black and white and am trying to cover both sides of grey.
I start this post by saying i do not support Child Labour.
Children earning money in their spare time which doesn't get in the way of school is fine. I had a poor childhood and had 3 jobs as well as school.
Derf employing this child is probably a lesser of evils to other alternatives. Working in the fields, on the game, being thrown out by the family who can't afford to keep her.
However it is still an evil and so Derf shouldn't be bragging about it.
If he was putting her through school that would be brag worthy but this isn't.
Has Derf considered that instead of employing 1 full time worker who can't go to school he should be employing several part time workers in rotation so that they have time to do both work and study?
He would need to garentee that they would go to school rather than take his money and work somewhere else.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
i never though a thread with a maid in it would have so much fail.....
Disgraceful post 
I remember that post too, and I wonder why your posting again, I suspect you feel you have some moral point to make.
So if £4 is a lot wherever you live, how much does your internet connection cost?
I can't be arsed going searching for your post - I doubt that whatever anyone says here will make a scrap of difference
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
I would like to employ an orphan child as a maid. This gives her the chance to enter wage slavery as opposed to sleeping on the streets or whatnot. I promise I will be nice to her and not to keep her in a cupboard or anything. However, my internet freinds, such a proposition needs cash to work.
Lots of cash.
Please pm your bank/card details/pin numbers forthwith.
I thank you in advance.
Lots of cash.
Please pm your bank/card details/pin numbers forthwith.
I thank you in advance.
mauvais
on reddit or something
DEAR URBANS76,
MY NAME IS KING DERF THE MAGINEFICIENT 4, AND I AM FROM THE KNIGDOM OF INDONESIA WICH IS NOWHERE NEAR NIGERIA WHERE I AM NOT. I HAVE MANY GOWNS AND THINGS MADE OF GLOD AND ALSO AN ACTUAL THRONE. EAT THAT YOU BITCHES.
RECENTLY MY UNCLE OR SOMEONE WAS KILLED IN A MYSTERIOUS FIRE WHERE I WAS NOT AT ALL PRESENT, AND I WAS LEFT HIS BUSINESS WHICH IS THE BUSINESS OF SELLING PORRIDGE BUSINESS. YOU SEE PORRIDGE IS SACRED IN MY COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WALK MANY MILES TO GAZE UPON ITS WNODER.
ANYWAY THE PORIRDGE BUNISNESS NEEDS TO EXPLAND AND I AM HEREFORTHWITHLLY PROPOSIERING A DEAL! I HAVE BEEN OFFERED POSSESIN OF A SMALL CHILD. TBH THEY ARE A BIT OF A SCRUFFBAG BUT STEVE SAYS THEY WILL DO OWT FOR COINS.
IF YOU CAN FAX ME FOURTEEN MILLION QUID NO DOLLARS THEYRE WORTHLESS THEN I WILL EMPLOY THE MIDGET DWARF BOY TO CLEAN UP MY MESS AND ERR LEVERAGE DYNAMIC SYNERGIES AN THAT. THEY WILL STIR THE PORRIDGE ALSO AND MAKE US MEGA WONGA WIHCH I WILL GIVE ALL OF IT TO YOU. AND IF THEY FALL IN AND DROWN IM SURE IT WILL STILL BE TASTY,
CHEERS BOSS
DR BOOMSTICK AWOOGA
10 INDONESIA STREET
INDONESIA
MY NAME IS KING DERF THE MAGINEFICIENT 4, AND I AM FROM THE KNIGDOM OF INDONESIA WICH IS NOWHERE NEAR NIGERIA WHERE I AM NOT. I HAVE MANY GOWNS AND THINGS MADE OF GLOD AND ALSO AN ACTUAL THRONE. EAT THAT YOU BITCHES.
RECENTLY MY UNCLE OR SOMEONE WAS KILLED IN A MYSTERIOUS FIRE WHERE I WAS NOT AT ALL PRESENT, AND I WAS LEFT HIS BUSINESS WHICH IS THE BUSINESS OF SELLING PORRIDGE BUSINESS. YOU SEE PORRIDGE IS SACRED IN MY COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WALK MANY MILES TO GAZE UPON ITS WNODER.
ANYWAY THE PORIRDGE BUNISNESS NEEDS TO EXPLAND AND I AM HEREFORTHWITHLLY PROPOSIERING A DEAL! I HAVE BEEN OFFERED POSSESIN OF A SMALL CHILD. TBH THEY ARE A BIT OF A SCRUFFBAG BUT STEVE SAYS THEY WILL DO OWT FOR COINS.
IF YOU CAN FAX ME FOURTEEN MILLION QUID NO DOLLARS THEYRE WORTHLESS THEN I WILL EMPLOY THE MIDGET DWARF BOY TO CLEAN UP MY MESS AND ERR LEVERAGE DYNAMIC SYNERGIES AN THAT. THEY WILL STIR THE PORRIDGE ALSO AND MAKE US MEGA WONGA WIHCH I WILL GIVE ALL OF IT TO YOU. AND IF THEY FALL IN AND DROWN IM SURE IT WILL STILL BE TASTY,
CHEERS BOSS
DR BOOMSTICK AWOOGA
10 INDONESIA STREET
INDONESIA
The question is are the heros who have a pop at me willing to stump up the cash and put their money where their mouths are?
I await your answers.
what a complete and utter cunt you are
get a job you lazy fucking useless bastard
you want us to subsidise you're vague sense of guilt at exploiting child labour because youre too fucking lazy to either work or even do your own fucking housework
lame, greedy, pathetic, weak, contemptable - the true face of the right wing
I would like to employ an orphan child as a maid. This gives her the chance to enter wage slavery as opposed to sleeping on the streets or whatnot. I promise I will be nice to her and not to keep her in a cupboard or anything. However, my internet freinds, such a proposition needs cash to work.
Lots of cash.
Please pm your bank/card details/pin numbers forthwith.
I thank you in advance.
pmsl!
I remember the 'good/bad' thread and I thought the whole thing dodgy as fuck and now this...errr, i smell a certain whiff of unmistakable bullshit from the OP tbh.
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Is the £4 to teach the kid to read the shopping lists, the lists of chores and that kind of thing?
Is this a new Western employer/Local skivvy communication inprovement program - all in the name of productivity and efficiency?
Have you thought of applying to the UN for funding?
Is this a new Western employer/Local skivvy communication inprovement program - all in the name of productivity and efficiency?
Have you thought of applying to the UN for funding?
This is a good point.
I seem to recall the UN being quite keen on child labour, but then again my memory's not so great.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
oh dear this thread is going exactly where I thought it would. Personally, if I wasn't prepared to pay for the girl's education but be prepared to pay her to be a maid then I wouldn't go posting about it on Urban. Did you see the 'should I employ a cleaner' thread? lol.
I can walk.
I am greedy as you are but I have the balls to admit it.
Pethetic - No.
contemptable - Only if you didn't plan your life so you could stop working at 45.
Not that right wing as I help local children with education for free. A true blue would fuck them off or charge for the service. I have a soft side.
This kid works for me.
If you want to change the world pop over and do as I do. Teach the local kids for free so that they have the chance of a better future. As things are at the moment there is a big push to learning English but few native speakers to help them pronounce the works correctly. I visit lots of local schools and universities free of charge to help them.
It costs me money for fuel and so on but, being the philanthropist that I am, I do so willingly.
Just as a note four quid is about 2/3 of an unskilled mans weekly wage out here if he can find work for a full week.
Many in the village live on a tenner a month. That's why the kids end up working in the fields. Would you like me to pay for them all to go to school?
Well enjoy your lunch knowing where your next meal is coming from but spare a thought for those who don't.
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
oh dear this thread is going exactly where I thought it would. Personally, if I wasn't prepared to pay for the girl's education but be prepared to pay her to be a maid then I wouldn't go posting about it on Urban. Did you see the 'should I employ a cleaner' thread? lol.
And where I thought it would go.
The problem that many have on here is that they love to spout on but have fuck all idea of what the world is like outside their doorstep.
I do hope that this thread provokes thought about what things are like for those who don't have the cash to live or even feed their family.
I am aware that I come over as a total bastard and in many ways I am but at least one or two people may take the time to investigate what things are like for many people here.
A thread about poverty in Indonesia would do sod all but a controversial subject has made a few sit up and look.
At the end of the day Yuli would have to work on the family farm (That's a plot of land you would call an allotment in the UK) or make crackers all day if she didn't work for me so she is far better off than she would be.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I see most of the people who have posted on this thread have no more read this thread than they did the other.
That said, although I appreciate you are trying to do your best by this child I don't think this is the best way to raise funds to sponsor her education. It is asking rather a lot to expect people to give money to some anonymous person on the internet who could be holed up in a basement in Wyoming for all we know. I wish I could give you a better suggestion but I can't and I don't know how you can possibly reassure people here how their money would be used if they did give you some.
That said, although I appreciate you are trying to do your best by this child I don't think this is the best way to raise funds to sponsor her education. It is asking rather a lot to expect people to give money to some anonymous person on the internet who could be holed up in a basement in Wyoming for all we know. I wish I could give you a better suggestion but I can't and I don't know how you can possibly reassure people here how their money would be used if they did give you some.
FFS how much does it take to keep a hut in Indonesia clean?????
I live in a rather nice two story house I had built in a small village.
We have a TV and satellite dish along with computer radio, Hi fi and so on.
Her duties include cleaning the place, looking after the baby when we are busy and serving guests that visit us.
It's the norm here for richer families to have a servant.
Many here do live in huts with no windows and dirt floors as the maid did.
scifisam
deleted
So you're now convinced that people being unwilling to pledge money to a stranger on a thread titled 'I want your cash' means that Urbanites are stingy rich Westerners who don't care about the poor in other countries, unlike you who is such a charitable philanthrope that you have someone else do your housework because you don't like doing it, and neither does your wife.
Do you have any idea how stupid that is?
Do you have any idea how stupid that is?
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Huh?
I could understand that if schools and unis were free for pupils and students, but you've already said that education isn't free, the families have to pay. If the educational establishments receive fees for the education that you provide I can't understand why you're doing it for free. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.
And sorry, but I can't help. I have a filipina cleaner where I'm living and I pay her over the odds on the basis that I know she has a couple of children back home who she's supporting.
Why don't you contact a charity like Plan International or whatever it's called? Why don't you see if she can participate in and benefit from a formal 'sponsor a child's educatuon' scheme?
I never expected anyone to come up with cash but wanted to see reactions and how informed posters were about the real world.
I got the results I expected from the gobby ones but at least a few have given some time to consider the problems that many families have here.
By the way. I don't like housework but who the hell does?
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
For a lot of young children in Asia and Africa sleeping on the streets would be preferable. The 'whatnot' is often being forced into prostitution, being sold, etc. Working as a maid for a lot of young children is much the lesser of two evils.I would like to employ an orphan child as a maid. This gives her the chance to enter wage slavery as opposed to sleeping on the streets or whatnot. I promise I will be nice to her and not to keep her in a cupboard or anything. However, my internet freinds, such a proposition needs cash to work.
Lots of cash.
Please pm your bank/card details/pin numbers forthwith.
I thank you in advance.
Huh?
I could understand that if schools and unis were free for pupils and students, but you've already said that education isn't free, the families have to pay. If the educational establishments receive fees for the education that you provide I can't understand why you're doing it for free. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.
There is a big push here to learning English but very few native speakers. People here have been good to me so I'm trying to do something in return.
Most schools are poor and have little cash to spend so I do it for nothing.
The Unis tend to have more cash and pay my fuel but still no salary.
Some kids do sleep on the street but none I have seen in this area. Prostitution is a problem and there are some that pay families with a promise to give their kids good work in the cities but they really use them as chickens.
scifisam
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I agree with that, but that doesn't make this particular thread OK.
@derf: You're saying that you can't afford to pay for this girl because you don't have much money, and you don't have much money because you choose not to work. You could get work which would provide that money, but you don't want to, or you could do your own housework and use the money you pay this girl to send her to school instead.
Yet you call others on here hypocrites for talking about wanting to help people and doing nothing about it. That's pretty much the position you're in.
I decided I didn't want to be a wage slave any more and was in a position to do something about it. I can't toss cash about or I will have to work again and the idea is not to.
We wanted a maid to help us out in the house. Bugger all point in spending the cash on here education and still having to do the work myself.
The problem with some posters here is that all they do is talk about heping but sit on their arses and so sod all.
I may have chosen the life I lead but that;s up to me as your life is up to you but at least I do go out there and help others instead of typing shit about how much they can do and using the cash to get pissed.
