klang
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get yourself a sm58. it's a good all-round cheapish dynamic mic for recording instruments and vocals.
I want to start making some tunez!
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klang
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you can no probs. there are plenty of plug-in amp simulators available. an e guitar just di'd sounds flat and boring.
but for sax, acc guit, etc etc you obviously need a mic. it's always handy to have one around.
fwiw, I never di guitars, but then I have a decent collection of amps.
Well a few reasons really.
You buy a new laptop, and straight away you fill it with dodgy pirated software?
Also, its all too easy to give up when you haven't spent the money on the software. Buying it makes you more committed to use it.
And cracked software fucks up a lot and you can't get the updates....etc.
And its just generally a bit of a shitty thing to do really.
moody
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Yeah, i was think some of those points, esp about the updates and maybe future pug-ins etc.
To the OP.
If you have any spare money left over buy Maschine Mikro, smaller and cheaper than it's big brother Maschine MKII or Maschine Studio. It's a fantastic piece of kit, very versatile. It integrates well with Ableton too or Logic if you go down the Apple route.
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/maschine/production-systems/maschine-mikro/
If you have any spare money left over buy Maschine Mikro, smaller and cheaper than it's big brother Maschine MKII or Maschine Studio. It's a fantastic piece of kit, very versatile. It integrates well with Ableton too or Logic if you go down the Apple route.
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/maschine/production-systems/maschine-mikro/
elbows
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I'm not convinced there is anything that represents quite such good value around these days, at least in terms of that combo of features. But at least the quality of the knobs and faders on this class of device has improved in the intervening decade. I was dead happy when I discovered that my old x-station 25 has class complaint midi and audio so works with the iPad etc. But one of the keys doesn't seem to work anymore and the controls just don't feel great to use. Audio quality still sounds pretty darn good though.
I know I just mentioned it on another thread the other day, but if I were about to start building a relatively cheap setup for Ableton, this would tempt me as a controller:
elbows
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Tightly integrated hardware and software, when done right, can certainly lead to a workflow that really changes the whole experience, making everything a lot more fun and really quite a different experience to using a computer with a mouse.
I had the original Maschine not long after it came out and I was impressed, although its taken a good while for the software to get enough features to keep people happy. The newer top-end model looks great, shame about the price. Most competitors will take a while to catch up with sort of integrated product, though quite a few are trying and the competition between them should lead to this stuff maturing nicely over the next few years.
moody
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What you actually need is this:
You then need to spend 30 minutes setting it all up.
20 minutes trying to blag some earphones off of someone else.
Another 30 minutes making sure all your settings are right.
Then you play an old skool sounding acid house backing track and everytime you twist a knob or press a button that warps the bass or inserts a noodly squeak you need to look up at you friend who is standing close by and smile like a excited kid with a new toy. 'Did you see, did you see what I did?'
I learnt all of this today so thought I would share it with you here.
You then need to spend 30 minutes setting it all up.
20 minutes trying to blag some earphones off of someone else.
Another 30 minutes making sure all your settings are right.
Then you play an old skool sounding acid house backing track and everytime you twist a knob or press a button that warps the bass or inserts a noodly squeak you need to look up at you friend who is standing close by and smile like a excited kid with a new toy. 'Did you see, did you see what I did?'
I learnt all of this today so thought I would share it with you here.
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Yeah I am an original Maschine owner too, well Mikro owner. In the early days the product was a lot more sparse than it is now, though it was very usable.
The Maschine Studio (new model) looks fantastic, it's just too damn expensive IMO, whilst it does have more features than the earlier models, the price difference has put me off upgrading.
Maschine is great though, I tend to use it purely as a sketch pad in the sense that I create my rhythmic beginnings with it/drum tracks.
& if you're going to get Ableton, check online for discounts, & if they don't have any currently, do you have any links to people involved in education- so students in higher education or teachers? As you get quite a hefty discount, as long as somebody in authority (e.g.. the headmaster) vouches for who you are.
sim667
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Ive been an ableton fiddler for a while, and I've learnt the basics without any hardware kit (except bass tones, I just can't get them to sound right, even when I follow the videos to the letter).
The only things I've been tempted to invest in are a mini midi keyboard, and a maschine (or version of).... but actually Id really like to learn to use a maschine live, like jeremy ellis
http://djworx.com/jazzy-jeff-jeremy-ellis-roots-super-mario/
The only things I've been tempted to invest in are a mini midi keyboard, and a maschine (or version of).... but actually Id really like to learn to use a maschine live, like jeremy ellis
http://djworx.com/jazzy-jeff-jeremy-ellis-roots-super-mario/
elbows
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Sorry for long delay in replying.
Depends on my budget and my exact control requirements. I haven't much doubt the APC40 controls will feel a bit nicer though, since all this series of novation controllers have the budget feel, though still a lot nicer than how similar budget devices would have felt a decade+ ago.
moody
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As I have said elsewhere in this thread, I have used Ableton previously so I am familiar with the software and a lot of my friends also use it so it'd be good to share experiences with them
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