Bob_the_lost said:Has anyone seen the topic recently by the way?
Which topic?
Bob_the_lost said:Has anyone seen the topic recently by the way?
It's possible. It will be up to a jury to decide when they have seen all the evidence and heard both sides of the case.energy said:So says the terrorist imprisoned in Italy.
He also claims to be a pacifist -- he "only wanted to scare people."
So says C4 news.
He must have a fairly low opinion of us, if he expects us to believe this.
I supposed he'll claim the explosives not blowing up was intensional.![]()
Bob_the_lost said:No, a trial, then max security prison for life. Make them live and know they failed...![]()
Killing is too good for them.
Maximum penalty: life imprisonment. That'll do.Presumably "attempted murder"?
TeeJay said:He can't be tried for the 7/7 bombings or any other attacks that have happened elsewhere, only for what he actually did himself. Presumably "attempted murder"?
Rocket Romano said:Life imprisonment
Thats about 20 years isn't it?
Arm the police, being the only unarmed force in Europe is a joke
Fight the terrorists....erm, with large sticks
Average time served for a life sentence = 15 yearsJHE said:Maximum penalty: life imprisonment. That'll do.
TeeJay said:Average time served for a life sentence = 15 years
Nemo said:Life in this case I should think. I very much doubt this lot will ever be realeased.
Having all the armed police around didn't stop the July 21st attacks, did it? Nor did the armed police in Madrid, New York, etc. Be realistic.
How many times in the last few years (outside of NI) has a police officer randomly come across a terrorist? How many times has an attack not been stopped purely because a police officer hasn't been armed?Rocket Romano said:Life imprisonment
Thats about 20 years isn't it?
Arm the police, being the only unarmed force in Europe is a joke
Fight the terrorists....erm, with large sticks
Precedents?Nemo said:Average time for these alleged bombers (if found guilty), I suspect = life.
Rocket Romano said:Well, lets arm them for the rest of the freaks out there, more so in London.
I think they should be released. Into the general wing, where the wardens should turn their back .
TeeJay said:Precedents?

Shall we see what the average sentence for attempted murder by NI terrorists was then? I could go and look now, but I want to make sure we are agreed about what I should be looking for.Nemo said:None. Do you have any?
TeeJay said:Shall we see what the average sentence for attempted murder by NI terrorists was then? I could go and look now, but I want to make sure we are agreed about what I should be looking for.
Yup, many people are allowed out on licence. If it's a life sentence, they then remain on licence for the rest of their lives - unless they step out of line, in which case they are put back into prison. It doesn't take much to get your licence revoked.TeeJay said:Average time served for a life sentence = 15 years
Nemo said:Now you're just being silly. You're telling me that people who were prepared to undertake 'martyrdom operations' should be, er... given a chance at 'martyrdom.'
Rocket Romano said:Being soft and understanding, like that wanker of a mayor in London won't help

Allowing rallies promoting and demanding a radical muslim government in the muslim world to take place in London is a joke
Nemo said:Yeah, because being hard and unyielding has worked so well thus far.![]()
So you're saying that legal organisations, however odious, shouldn't have the right of freedom of speech and assembly. My, how nice it would be if I could trust the powers that be as much as you do.
Rocket Romano said:He certainly wouldn't know, he hasn't tried it yet. Odious PR PC loving wanker. Please can I come back in Mr Blair, I'll lick Cherie out for you
If this was the far right or the far left demonstrating there'd be a huge thread whining about it, but there's not, so it MUST be freedom of speech
I sympathise with your obvious anger and hatred of Islamonut bombers and their ideologues, but that comment is a bit bonkers. Who is it supposed to be about?Rocket Romano said:Please can I come back in Mr Blair, I'll lick Cherie out for you
JHE said:I sympathise with your obvious anger and hatred of Islamonut bombers and their ideologues, but that comment is a bit bonkers. Who is it supposed to be about?
Bernie Gunther said:Here's a question. Which is the problem that we can solve, jihadi doctrine existing or someone who listens to it deciding to become a suicide bomber?
JHE said:I sympathise with your obvious anger and hatred of Islamonut bombers and their ideologues, but that comment is a bit bonkers. Who is it supposed to be about?
HarrisonSlade said:Yeah I guess. But, if you have come this far and your destiny was to blow yourself to smithereens, but you failed, then surely it would be a much more worthy thing to do for your cause to say that you went out to kill these people for your beliefs, and go to prison a martyr with conviction. The wriggling out of it that this guy looks like he is doing doesn't look like the actions of a man who was brave enough to commit suicide for his cause.