I scoff at your mechanical hard drives

[Crispy]

ta, so one of them and say three 250G disks for RAID on a SATA interface?

Why RAID? On anything but a high performance server there's no performance gain. Only RAID if you're going to RAID 0 for redundancy.

 

[two sheds]

Why RAID? On anything but a high performance server there's no performance gain. Only RAID if you're going to RAID 0 for redundancy.

Yep redundancy - Bob i think it was on the last thread recommended three disks for RAID 5.

Backatcha also suggested the Novatech Ion Fusion http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/range.html?t=pc&c=home&r=IOF for 3W processor

 

[ExtraRefined]

RAID 0 for redundancy.

 

[Crispy]

oh you know what I mean

 

[oicur0t]

I've got 8x 300 gig 15k SAS drives connected by 4gb fibre channel. I am still testing. Ultimate speed, but not great for power usage....

 

[newbie]

as a jbod or a raid?

 

[oicur0t]

as a jbod or a raid?

Still testing, I need to sort out some component problems (power cables). It'll be on a separate box running solaris (built in fc target mode drivers)

I will test raid 5 and 6 to begin with. It will be holding all my virtual machines.

 

[newbie]

g'luck. FC is expensive to set up, specially if you use fibre not copper. But then once the arbitrated loop is up and running you can add nodes, including CPUs, relatively easily and even, with a following wind, get it to run SCSI and TCP/IP protocols simultaneously which makes it very powerful.

 

[Sunray]

Definitely interested in an SSD just for holding the operating system. I was talking to Backatchabandit who said you'd only really need 8 Gig SSD for that - sound reasonable? and presumably somewhat cheaper

There are SSD's and SSD's. Don't expect to stick a USB stick in and get the blistering performance.

There is a reason I got the Vertex but you need to read this to understand why, why its 60Gb and not 64Gb and lots of other stuff.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=22

 

[Sunray]

In my opinion you want the swap to access this drive, thats where the big saving would come in.

Specially with the swap loving stuff I do.

No because that involves write performance and after lots of small writes there is a performance penalty to be paid.

See previous post link for information why.

I've got the swap file on a 10k RPM Rapor drive for added performance.

 

[oicur0t]

g'luck. FC is expensive to set up, specially if you use fibre not copper. But then once the arbitrated loop is up and running you can add nodes, including CPUs, relatively easily and even, with a following wind, get it to run SCSI and TCP/IP protocols simultaneously which makes it very powerful.

I've got all the hardware, 2x Qlogic cards 4 gb/s, I was very lucky in obtaining it, unfinished/retired projects at work.

I used to run IP over FC previously with the qlogic linux drivers which was fun. Made it very flexible using NFS.

 

[two sheds]

There are SSD's and SSD's. Don't expect to stick a USB stick in and get the blistering performance.

There is a reason I got the Vertex but you need to read this to understand why, why its 60Gb and not 64Gb and lots of other stuff.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=22

Ta - didn't see anything on 60/64 Gb though*, and did FM say yours is 30 Gb?

*Eta: Aha, just working my way through the comments

 

[ExtraRefined]

I've got all the hardware, 2x Qlogic cards 4 gb/s, I was very lucky in obtaining it, unfinished/retired projects at work.

I used to run IP over FC previously with the qlogic linux drivers which was fun. Made it very flexible using NFS.

Your hand-me-downs are better than the kit I run a 1500 user network on you utter bastard

 

[Kanda]

How easy would it be to retrofit one of these to a iMac??

 

[oicur0t]

Replace an iMac hd? Pretty straight forward...

 

[oicur0t]

Your hand-me-downs are better than the kit I run a 1500 user network on you utter bastard

I'm sorry

 

[Crispy]

How easy would it be to retrofit one of these to a iMac??

If you can get it open, and it's a mac that has a SATA drive, very easily. You'll need to get a 2.5 to 3.5" caddy, cos these drives are all 2.5" (I think).

When I say 'very easily' I mean as easy as opening an imac up can be.

and without space for a secondary internal drive, you'd have to get a large one.

 

[Sunray]

Which was a strange moment, putting it in a desktop without having a 2.5 kit, but as its 2w max weighs next to nothing and no alignment issue (hard disks can only be horizontal and vertical, not upside down either), no problem with having it dangling by the power cable in my machine.

 

[Crispy]

Actually, I seem to remember reading that imacs had 2 sata interfaces inside, but only one plugged in. You could probably fit two 2.5" SDDs in there ...

A project for the weekend, kanda

 

[EastEnder]

How easy would it be to retrofit one of these to a iMac??

You can get Mac specific versions - they're essentially the same, just twice the price and come preloaded with a superiority complex.

 

[Kanda]

Actually, I seem to remember reading that imacs had 2 sata interfaces inside, but only one plugged in. You could probably fit two 2.5" SDDs in there ...

A project for the weekend, kanda

Possibly... does it fuck my warranty though?

 

[Crispy]

of course it does

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Which was a strange moment, putting it in a desktop without having a 2.5 kit, but as its 2w max weighs next to nothing and no alignment issue (hard disks can only be horizontal and vertical, not upside down either), no problem with having it dangling by the power cable in my machine.

Thought that problem went out ages ago, spec sheets say you can have them at any angle these days.

Not any slower than a firewire external mechanical hard drive though surely?

No slower but you don't buy one of these to be no slower

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I just got one of these

and I just installed Vista in less than 5 minutes

Its very weird having no hard disk noise at all.

Fuck, this is really really fast. I just installed Firefox in ohh, 2 seconds.

I'm jealous.

Hopefully be next year they will reach a sensible price for us mortals.

 

[Sunray]

This is far and away the best upgrade I've ever made to my PC. Machine is amazingly responsive now.

I see Kingston are shipping cheaper 64Gb (prolly 60Gb real) 100Mbs/80Mbs drives for 95 quid.

 

[Quartz]

SSDs are very nice.

 

[EastEnder]

Better than STDs.