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I saw someone swim the Thames today at Wapping

I think this is largely a myth formed by a lazy journalist in the year the Marchioness disaster happened...

I have :

The 50 a year info was in a six part documentary on the river police based at Wapping. They included other details such as the seasonal nature of the deaths, and filmed several rescues, one of which was too late.

I'll go with the info in the documentary.
 
The 50 a year info was in a six part documentary on the river police based at Wapping. They included other details such as the seasonal nature of the deaths, and filmed several rescues, one of which was too late.

I'll go with the info in the documentary.

I can't remember the exact figures that the guy on the tour gave us, but the number of incidents is very high. They're a very busy station.
 
I've just found the *actual* RoSPA figures for 2002...

42 Drownings in the Thames

Oddly, the same number drowned in 'Home Baths'. How does that happen? Unsupervised children? Drink/drugs? Slip, bang head, pass out?
 
I've just found the *actual* RoSPA figures for 2002...

42 Drownings in the Thames

Oddly, the same number drowned in 'Home Baths'. How does that happen? Unsupervised children? Drink/drugs? Slip, bang head, pass out?

I've just found this site which has lots of interesting information about the Marine Suppor Unit, and also says 50 deaths per year in the Thames (lots of those are suicides): http://www.the-river-thames.co.uk/police.htm
 
I've been for a swim in the Thames several times due to sculling incompetence. Usually mine, although I was once in a quad that got taken at full speed into one of the islands, breaking it in half :D
 
Top Gear did the River Humber v Car thing. I can't remember where exactly along the river it is but you can get across, walking, at slack low tide. The mud is very deep though, and I wouldn't try it without being extremely fit.

He was only a bit upriver from the Humber Bridge. I was surprised it was possible to walk across the estuary at all - that far downriver, anyway. Aside from the mud and the notoriously strong currents, I'd have thought the dredged channel would have been too deep to walk across even on a neap tide.
 
There was this article a few years back about bodies in the Thames,

and for the point about bodies washing up at a ceratin point, it's Isle of Dogs

Inquests into river deaths are common here. The coroner's assistant says that the U-bend of the Thames around the Isle of Dogs is a trapping point for bodies. "They tend to accumulate here from all sections of the river."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2004/dec/15/features11.g2
 
As we cycled away I tried to work out what he could be charged with if he was arrested.

Is there a law against swimming the Thames?

It depends which bit, I think, Port of London Authority manages the bit in town and I'd imagine it is forbidden.

Environment Agency is responsible for the rest of it.

El Jugs swam in the Thames lots as a kid, his grandfather had a boat with a bathing ladder. But only up in Lechlade nearer the source, where the water is clear.
 
Apparently the water's not bad in the Thames anymore. There was very little rubbish on all the beaches and silt that we saw cycling along it. The worst spot, strangely, was the lock at the entrance to the Limehouse basin. There was tons of plastic and stuff there. I'm not sure if it came from the Thames or one of the canals.
 
Apparently the water's not bad in the Thames anymore. There was very little rubbish on all the beaches and silt that we saw cycling along it. The worst spot, strangely, was the lock at the entrance to the Limehouse basin. There was tons of plastic and stuff there. I'm not sure if it came from the Thames or one of the canals.
Cleanest city river in Europe, FACT.
 
Apparently the water's not bad in the Thames anymore. There was very little rubbish on all the beaches and silt that we saw cycling along it. The worst spot, strangely, was the lock at the entrance to the Limehouse basin. There was tons of plastic and stuff there. I'm not sure if it came from the Thames or one of the canals.

I did read that there are salmon back in the Thames now, which is a testament to how well the river's been cleaned up - and to the decline or modernisation of the industries that used to pump all manner of shit into it. Thirty years ago it was so polluted that pretty much nothing except eels could survive, and if you fell in it was usually a stomach-pump job...
 
I did read that there are salmon back in the Thames now, which is a testament to how well the river's been cleaned up - and to the decline or modernisation of the industries that used to pump all manner of shit into it. Thirty years ago it was so polluted that pretty much nothing except eels could survive, and if you fell in it was usually a stomach-pump job...

There's a seal that's regularly seen swimming about in Wapping :cool:
 
I saw a seal sunning itself on the rocks at chelsea bridge once.

Apparently there's a seal whatever-the-noun-is (habitat? population?) a bit further up the Thames so I guess they swim up river quite a bit. The Wapping one seems to be around a lot, I wonder whether it's made a second home somewhere near.
 
Apparently there's a seal whatever-the-noun-is (habitat? population?) a bit further up the Thames so I guess they swim up river quite a bit. The Wapping one seems to be around a lot, I wonder whether it's made a second home somewhere near.

Typical. Story of Thatcher's dispossession of the docklands. Massive redevelopment results in pied a terre's forcing out the local population. :mad:
 
Apparently you can walk across the Thames at very low tides at festival pier as it is only 5 or 6ft deep in the middle..
How are you going to walk across if the water covers most people's heads? :hmm:
Apparently the water's not bad in the Thames anymore. There was very little rubbish on all the beaches and silt that we saw cycling along it. The worst spot, strangely, was the lock at the entrance to the Limehouse basin. There was tons of plastic and stuff there. I'm not sure if it came from the Thames or one of the canals.
Yeah, people seem to be under the impression the Thames is dirty when in fact it's quite clean.
 
teh salmon are stockies effectively - taken from the indigenous North Tyne migratory stock IIRC> there is some debate as to how effective they have been, bu there are reports that Salmon ave been seen upstream at locks and passes- whether these are the result f the stocking or "lost" wild ones has yet to be proved. There are brown trout in the thames, more succesful than the salmon, but again, the result of restocking

the Thames is pretty clean though - some work to do, but a far cry form the de facto biologically dead status of a few decades ago
 
Apparently the water's not bad in the Thames anymore. There was very little rubbish on all the beaches and silt that we saw cycling along it. The worst spot, strangely, was the lock at the entrance to the Limehouse basin. There was tons of plastic and stuff there. I'm not sure if it came from the Thames or one of the canals.

It'll have come out of the Regents Canal and the River Lee.

It's not the water quality that's the problem if you try and swim in the river in town, it's the traffic and the currents that might get you.
 
Wasting police time?

I thought that was if you called them out uneccesarily. Presumably he didn't call them :confused:

This is one for Detective Boy, if he's passing....


Bloody stupid thing to do.

Oh I'm not denying that.

But so is (for example) copying Scotts trip to the Antarctic, and there has recently been a whole telly series of that........


I'm torn here, on where we draw the lines of liberty......
 
Oh I'm not denying that.

But so is (for example) copying Scotts trip to the Antarctic, and there has recently been a whole telly series of that........


I'm torn here, on where we draw the lines of liberty......

I don't think swimming the Thames is necessarily a stupid thing to do. It's a challenge, and naturally enough some people want to take it up. Fair enough if they want to, and I don't think they should be prevented from doing so.

However, it's pretty irresponsible to do it without a back-up boat to pick you up if you get into difficulties, since a) you run a serious risk of drowning, and b) it's a major headache for the rescue services to find you in time if you get into difficulties.

It's much like yachting, climbing etc etc. Do it by all means, but you're an idiot if you don't take sensible safety precautions.
 
I don't think swimming the Thames is necessarily a stupid thing to do. It's a challenge, and naturally enough some people want to take it up. Fair enough if they want to, and I don't think they should be prevented from doing so.

However, it's pretty irresponsible to do it without a back-up boat to pick you up if you get into difficulties, since a) you run a serious risk of drowning, and b) it's a major headache for the rescue services to find you in time if you get into difficulties.

It's much like yachting, climbing etc etc. Do it by all means, but you're an idiot if you don't take sensible safety precautions.

Also the other river traffic. The consequences could be dire for other people not just the person doing it.
 
Also the other river traffic. The consequences could be dire for other people not just the person doing it.

Yes, that too. I doubt Thames Clippers would be very happy about having to swerve to avoid a swimmer or, worse, clean what's left of he/she off their hulls.
 
Yes, that too. I doubt Thames Clippers would be very happy about having to swerve to avoid a swimmer or, worse, clean what's left of he/she off their hulls.

propller craft ... paddleships ... tall ships ... barges ... yachts

I never think about vessels being generally able to swerve, as such. Or just a minority
 
Found that photo.

"Oi! You slaaaag"

Rover chases FTW :)

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I hope the Prospect of Whitby doesn't have to put barriers up because of this.

The Narrow has and it looks shit. I used to enjoy being treated like an adult there, now it's got shit iron railings :mad:
 
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