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Xanadu said:
You'll need some sort of convertor for that though. I've probably got an old style steel IBM keyboard, but the connection is an XT-type one.
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There must be something out there (Maplins maybe?) surely?
 
I'm no fanboy, but linux is not an adequate replacement - esp. for the OP.
 
I work with PCs every day, used to work on ODBC connectivity and Access databases primarily, so I'm not exactly a typical mac fanboy.

And equally I'm not so dumb to suggest a whopping great diy box as an adequate replacement for for a compact imac/laptop, nor suggest Linux as a plausible option for a student of music and art at a college that specifically recommends macs.

Anyway, as you were. Not reading the OP and talking a load of arse that is...


:D
 
I didn't suggest it to the student, who the OP already established had a mac. I was talking to all you pricks who are down-playing windows.
 
Vista has narrowed the gap substantially between Windows and the Mac. It's nothing innovative. In fact, as has been widely noted, it's copied many of OSX's best ideas.

Nonetheless, it looks good and works well. The desktop search is superb (makes XP look like the dark ages rubbish it is). Windows Media Player and Windows Photo Gallery are pretty good. If you really want, you can install iTunes (free) and ACDSee (about £20) which puts a big chunk in the difference between the base install and iLife.

The iMac is really the least attractive Mac. It's basically a laptop on a stick. I really wouldn't want to have to send my machine away just to get a screen fault repaired and like laptops it has the usual lack of upgrade options.

As a former Mac owner (yes, I suppose I am the mythical person who's switched back) I'd say Macs are ok and I don't even mind them being expensive but they're really not good value. £699 for a laptop that hasn't even got a DVD writer? No chance.

Factor in the price of AppleCare unless you fancy paying around £400 for a new motherboard if it fails after the first year and the iMac probably costs at least twice as much as a comparable PC.
 
jargs said:
I didn't suggest it to the student, who the OP already established had a mac. I was talking to all you pricks who are down-playing windows.
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Who's a Windows fanboy now then. Like shooting silly fish in a barrel this is.

:D

jargs said:
That's because buying the extra software is not necessary, but if you really felt like you had to then add £50 onto the price for vista, or use linux which is free, when you buy a mac you don't get that choice.
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And can I just point out how ill informed you are. You can run Windows, Linux and OSX on a Mac, all running parallel. Which is more choice than you can achieve on your Windows box.

Perhaps you should actually spend less time fiddling making up ugly boxes and actually have a go on a Mac. You may actually like it. Or learn something.
 
I don't think i'll get very far doing that on the shit hardware that you get on macs.


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tarannau said:
And can I just point out how ill informed you are. You can run Windows, Linux and OSX on a Mac, all running parallel. Which is more choice than you can achieve on your Windows box.
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This point always amuses me. The whole culture of the Mac is supposedly to keep things simple and use OSX as the superior way of doing things. Installing multiple operating systems completely undercuts this philosophy and makes life considerably more complicated.
 
jargs said:
I don't think i'll get very far doing that on the shit hardware that you get on macs.
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You what. I rendered a hour-long Premiere project to DVD in parallels, while watching downloaded TV on the 2nd screen and browsing the net on the other, on my imac with 3GB of memory. Setting all that up was easy to do.

And that was the last time I had to use windows. I since upgraded to leopard and ditched parallels as I have no more unfinished work in a Windows app.
 
jargs said:
I don't think i'll get very far doing that on the shit hardware that you get on macs.


...and it goes on
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Ah bless. Ask mum to pick your toys up from around the pram on your way out.

UT -multiple OS's aren't something I particularly use, but it's worthwhile to point out when someone comes up with bollocks claims about how the mac has less 'choice' when the opposite's truth. It comes into its own for web development really - allowing you to check appearance of web pages on multiple os's and browsers quickly.
 
crispy those are hardly memory consuming procceses...and you have 3GB of ram so you just proved me right...
 
tarannau said:
UT -multiple OS's aren't something I particularly use, but it's worthwhile to point out when someone comes up with bollocks claims about how the mac has less 'choice' when the opposite's truth. It comes into its own for web development really - allowing you to check appearance of web pages on multiple os's and browsers quickly.
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It's quite possible to run OSX on a PC, too, so the point is moot.

I've recently upgraded all my kit. I considered a switch to the Mac but didn't primarily because of a lack of choice for hardware. As many people have said, a good mid-range desktop machine between the Mini and the Pro would be a far better deal than the iMac. Ditto something mid-range between the Macbook and MBP.

Hardware choice is important for me. And like I say, Vista is actually pretty good.
 
And I bet you're no more productive or speedier than any us mac 'fanboys' despite the fact you've spent a lot of time on your chunky old rig.

Wanking to the latest FPS doesn't really count btw....
 
untethered said:
It's quite possible to run OSX on a PC, too, so the point is moot.
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Quite is the operative word there. It's in no way stable enough for daily use.

PS: I have done similar stuff when I only had 1GB of RAM - I just didn't try to watch TV at the same time. Worked fine.
 
tarannau said:
And I bet you're no more productive or speedier than any us mac 'fanboys' despite the fact you've spent a lot of time on your chunky old rig.
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I wasn't suggesting that I was. But I'm almost certainly no less productive and I'm definitely several hundred pounds better off and have far better options for repairs and upgrades, not to mention software.

tarannau said:
W- to the latest FPS doesn't really count btw....
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I don't play games.
 
untethered said:
If you look at the OS usage stats, you'll find that it's for almost no-one on the desktop.

Bit like the Mac, really.
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I have it on the desktop at work and love it. But that's cos I don't (a) need any non-linux apps and (b) work as a programmer. It's all bells and whistles round this way.

At home it's windows all the way cos it's impossible to play poker on anything else.
 
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