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Jazzz said:
As you say editor.
No. Really.

I'd imagine less than 0.01% of the UK population either know or care about the supposed significance behind these 'satanic gestures' claims.

Perhaps you should build a website to warn them of the imminent danger?
 
another Texas Longhorns fan!

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My guess -- 'cos Jazzz turned up here.

But you gotta hand it to the guy. Considering the level of (perceived) threat he's dealing with, he stays remarkably cool.
 
Jonti said:
Considering the level of (perceived) threat he's dealing with, he stays remarkably cool.
You've got that the wrong way around.

Considering the amount of barking, bonkers, off-topic, fruitloop, disruptive drivel he posts up, the community stays remarkably cool.
 
Jazzz said:
Your obsession is getting irritating now.

If you were making speeches all day with a battery of cameras shoved in your face, it's highly likely that sooner or later you may - if only for one instant - be captured with your hand in that position.

Only raging loonspuds would try and concoct a bizarre yarn that the photos are actually capturing public manifestations of satanic ritual.

Step forward prison planet!
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Nevertheless, he does stay cool, and I'd say there were rather more intemperate and ad hominem attacks on Jazzz than by him.
Perhaps that might be down to the material he posts up, which some find to be rather offensive?
 
Donna Ferentes said:
No more than anybody else, I think. My comment on Jazzz was in fact a response to a posting on the same topic by yourself.
No, feel free to carry on!

No nitpick too small!
 
felixthecat said:
. It was developed as a secret sign by students who weren't allowed to use the full blown i love you sign at school.
That's waaaaaaaay too simple an explanation.

Surely a global, top secret, satanic cult full of world leaders who can't stop themselves inadvertently making devil's horns gestures in the full glare of the world's press is more likely!
 
editor said:
That's waaaaaaaay too simple an explanation.

Surely a global, top secret, satanic cult full of world leaders who can't stop themselves inadvertently making devil's horns gestures in the full glare of the world's press is more likely!

Ooooh....... maybe you're right!
I suppose I'd better knock it off my repetoire of signs, just in case :D .
 
laptop said:
How the fuck did this turn into a lizard thread? :confused:
Jonti said:
My guess -- 'cos Jazzz turned up here.

But you gotta hand it to the guy. Considering the level of (perceived) threat he's dealing with, he stays remarkably cool.
editor said:
You've got that the wrong way around.

Considering the amount of barking, bonkers, off-topic, fruitloop, disruptive drivel he posts up, the community stays remarkably cool.
That's because folk don't find his theories convincing -- are you suggesting he doesn't either?
 
Badger Kitten said:
Hum, and has anyone noticed if you assign a number to each letter of the alphabet and add it up you get D.A.V.I.D. C.A.M.E.R.O.N.'S C.O.N.S.E.R.V.A.T.I.V.E.P.A.R.T.Y. = 666!!


Or, sometimes, 13!


Which is a mystical number that when translated into runes means '' I am an enlightened one, descended from the race of giants and angels''.

And 13 was the number at the Last Supper, a painting by Illuminati Magus Da Vinci, a member of the Order of the Protocols of Psion or Xion or Zion, who keep the bloodline of the Graal blood-nobles or Ilumininati or descendants of the race of extra-tearra beings.

You can see the truth, if you look carefully.

David - the King in the Old Testament ( he sees himself as the king, the pureblooded one)

Came ron - There came one 'r' is for royal

Con servative - It is 'con' - or conjunct - joined with the royal pureblooded enlightened ones. It is also a 'con' - a trick. Dreadful is the deceit practised upon us by our lizard masters!

Serv - we are here to serve them at -ive - the i is male,
(ascendant phallos) the V is female ( pudenda graal) and the e is eternity, the sacred spiral.

Party
- this refers to the party that they have at our expense, feeding off our labour and galloping about in their pink coats with their baying hounds. It is not foxes they hunt, oh no. It is unbelievers, truth-seekers who dare to expose their lies. Disguised as foxes

And now, with the Phoenix project, and Jazzz's clever sussing of the symbology, all is revealed. Yes! The scales have fallen from my eyes! Quite literally! Beware! Beware!
:D :D
oh don't, you'll just encourage jazzz...
 
They would admit responsibility! Because what is the use of being a terrorist otherwise. What else? Oh yes they had some real demands and we all knew what they were.

al queda did claim responsibility

have you read any of bin Ladens speeches, he has quite specific political demands
 
I think both Jazzz is an MI6 spook. He's been sent here by his handlers to disrupt the discussions going on because we're getting closer to The Truth.

It's so obvious now I think about it: His lizards threads are always most outrageous on the threads where people are discovering the biggest cover-ups, like the Conservative Party's undermining of activist websites, due to immitation, and then in time, adsurdity.

It will go like this: The Pheonix website will start off as seemingly respectable activist site, dealing with current issues such as the disaffected voters like the youths. Then, gradually we will se a move toward bonkers ideas which will turn the site into a laughing stock, and the association with Urban, they believe, will be made; thus ruining the forum, and moving us further away from the Illuminati.

Jazzz works in the same way: He will continue to disrupt threads with talk of lizards which implants the meme that there is no Illuminati, because it's absurd. This is desirable. He wants us to believe there's no New World Order coming, because he is in the pay of those interests it serves best to have us believe that.

Jazzz is a 'conspiraloon', but not in the sense we have all thought.

What say you Jazzz? :D
 
I dunno. He's certainly polite, and dogged. And I can't think Jazzz really believes the stuff he posts -- he'd certainly find things, like scarey, scarey, scarey if he did. And he don't sound scared or get heated. Even so, suggesting he's just a smokescreen is a tad too much, innit? There's enough lunacy around without bothering to organise extra.

Fwiw, my take is, he finds it interesting, and wants to talk about it. He doesn't have the training to assess information and arguments, so comes here for help with that. But he can't assess info and arguments in the first place, so that's not much help. Then, unsuprisingly, he gets more and more less-than-rational responses and thinks "Ooh, look, they're in denial" so tries to help us out with a bit more info. Dunno, I really dunno. Maybe the guys's a fruitloop, but I've never heard that sneering triumphalism in his tone that one so often finds in people like that.

Anyway, on this thread he got a couple of sound and sensible responses on his hand signal business. Will he take the info on board? I sure hope so. It's great to raise questions -- but you gotta listen to the answers as well.

And what I read sounded cool. The "I Love You" sign from deaf schoolkids. And the "Yay! Texan Longhorns" gesture (boy, I was pleased to read that -- never seen Bush looking so serious, I was spooked until I read about the ball game connection).

Gotta sympathise with Ed. Jazzz hijacked another thread.
 
Anyone who believes anything on the prisonplanet website has to be the type of mewling hypochondriac gullible kid who gets laughed at lots...
 
Badger Kitten said:
That is my problem with them ( conspiracy theorists) , there is no critical thinking.

I can perfectly well entertain the idea that there are symbols and portents everywhere and that wicked conspiracies and power-seeking strategies exist. I did a year-long course in transpersonal psychology FFS, and paid for the privilege, and am no stranger to writing pretentious shite about symbols and the unconscious ego and the spititual realm. What is so irritating is that there is no attempt at analysis or even Occams razor with the conspiranoids. There is a deliberate intent to find portents and hidden symbols everywhere and to make everything fit a particular world view. It's like being a fundementalist Christian or Muslim and seeing all non-Christians/non-Muslims as evil, or a racist seeing everyone ''native'' and brown as inferior: basic, loathesome binary polarisation. Demonisation of the Other. Fundementalist lazy elitist thinking. That is how violent conflict starts, ( I'm right, you're wrong) but any argument should stand up to critical analysis, and conspiracy theories just don't , because they are held as an emotional article of faith, not investiaged as a rational & considered understanding.

(And I have seen how my fury at the conspracy theorists furious attacks on me quickly degenerated into a vicious war or words and threats, which I am appalled by, and wish had never happened. I can see how emotive all this is).

I have entertained the idea that the US Govt blew up the Twin towers, or let it happen, as the outcome fitted their own agenda, and was certainly exploited for said agenda, as I have with July 7th rush to ID cards and draconian anti-civil liberites legislation. But the theory that pissed off fundementalist jihadist Islamists did it is much much more compelling than the idea that it was orchestrated as some grand design to get us all into V for Vendetta -land. However unpleasant it is to take on board, and whatever that means for our sense of safety and comprehension of security, it was angry young men filled with a toxic idealogy that dunnit.

Ditto Bohemian Grove - yes, they might be worshipping a Satanic owl, but the evidence that is an old fart frat-boy networking summer camp is much more compelling.

And so on and so on. I like symbology, Jung, ancient myths and religions, theology and so on. I have spent time and money studying them. One thing it has taught me is that you can make anything mean anything, depending on who is marking the essay and what they want to hear. But to try to construct a whole personal belief system on such shakey ground, that cannot be questioned, is just barmy.People get an emotional security from having all the answers and being seekers and initiates of some privileged truth. But recognise that as a social need, not an absolute truth.

Rant over. Bit pissed. Sorry.

Probably the best thing I've read on Urban re: conspiracies, 7/7, 9/11 etc, and on why conspiracy types exist.

Thanks BK!
 
felixthecat said:
Ok another bit of derail - but does no-one realise that the 'satanic' hand symbol is actually the American sign language sign for 'I love you'? Its a combination of the letters I L and Y. Thats why so many americans who aren't Texas Longhorn fans use it. It was developed as a secret sign by students who weren't allowed to use the full blown i love you sign at school.

http://deafness.about.com/od/expressionandfun/a/iloveyouhand.htm
Similar, but the thumb is (I understand) extended.

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Silvio Berlusconi does not love you... I guess he must be a Longhorns fan? Or maybe his hand 'accidentally' was in that position?

It's a fair cop about the thread hijack though. Shall we go back to bashing the conservative party?
 
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