I have had it with conspiracy theories

[Insurgent]

The perfect conspiracy...

I'm inclined not believe conspiracy theories, because in all honesty I think the truth is often far far worse. In fact the very idea of the 'conspiracy theory' is a conspiracy in itself - it's a very useful construct to have people debunk damaging truths of their own accord, without the need to resort to media intervention in the formulation of your opinion. Be aware!

 

[pk]

look you utter twat - everyone else knows the difference between vaccines and antibiotics.

Can't you stop shit-stirring for one fucking day?

If you can stop speculating shit conspiracy theories based upon wankers like Rense and Joe Vialls, yes.

If you can't then you deserve all you get.

 

[Jazzz]

shut the fuck up. YOU dredged this thread up today, and the time stamps are there for all to see.

I can't believe you are so pathetic as to spoil for a totally unnecessary fight on this day, of all.

Really.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

So, odds on when the first 'MI5 behind London bombings' thread then?

We've already had one. I binned it. The bloke then immediately started ranting on about censorship and David Shayler on another thread, so I banned him.

 

[pk]

YOU shut the fuck up, "Dr".

YOU dredged this conspiracy bullshit up today, true to type, and the residue in the bin is there for all to see.

If not - I'll quote the shit you wrote:

I don't think it's too early to note either the remarkably convenient timing for the person who will be making demands vociferously on the back of these attacks - namely Mr. Blair, with his agenda to take us towards a police state; featuring Identity Cards, and other drastic removals of civil liberties.

And we can surely expect more of this.

I can't believe you are so pathetic as to spoil for a totally unnecessary conspiranoid bullshit theory on this day, of all.

I'm not picking a fight - I'm just trying to ensure your hysterical bollocks doesn't cloud information we have all yet to recieve.

Really.

 

[Jazzz]

Don't try to copy me.

The thread you quote (which is not this one, before a new reader gets confused) I started was motivated by my genuine beliefs and outrage at these terrorist attacks and where my initial suspicions lie. It was not my intention to provoke, just to say an equivalent piece that Tony Blair felt he was able to. Due to the response I was happy for it to be shelved.

HOWEVER you dredge up this thread today - with a post that has nothing whatsoever to do with the events of the day - vaccines ffs! purely because you WANT to indulge in your favourite board pastime - throwing shit around at the people you think are safe targets.

The emotional nature of today's events was a spur for you, not a hindrance.

It is you who is an utter childish and cowardly disgrace to these boards.

 

[fela fan]

It is you who is an utter childish and cowardly disgrace to these boards.

Very difficult to argue against dr.

pk is one of the most insult-laden characters i've ever come across.

 

[Loki]

Very difficult to argue against dr.

pk is one of the most insult-laden characters i've ever come across.

It's just a persona. Anyway I agree with him completely on this one. But then I don't have your amazing in-depth understanding of "perspective filters" and "mirrors", whatever they are.

 

[fela fan]

But then I don't have your amazing in-depth understanding of "perspective filters" and "mirrors", whatever they are.

And until you dear loki, you'll always be handicapped. I suggest you go on a crash course, but beware of cracked mirrors... it reduces the chances of seeing yourself accurately.

Whether pk is a persona or a person makes no odds to me, he's full of bile and vitriol on this website. Always has been since i've been here. I'm not even suggesting he's a bad person at all, just calling on something i've observed.

 

[Loki]

And until you dear loki, you'll always be handicapped. I suggest you go on a crash course, but beware of cracked mirrors... it reduces the chances of seeing yourself accurately.

Thanks. It's all clear to me now

 

[bigfish]

Funny how you say one minute that all vaccines are evil then extoll the virtues of penicillin the next.

Man, dummy's don't come much dumber than you.

Do you actually suffer from some kind of mental disorder, if so I'll make allowances for it.

Hang on! You're the slimy fascist who wants to jack up Islamic clerics with pigs blood aren't you? So what kind of mental disorder are you suffering from, like?

Don't tell me, you're 'normal', right?

 

[Jo/Joe]

So, odds on when the first 'MI5 behind London bombings' thread then?

It's already been kindly forwarded for discussion by bigfish on the 'Who was responsible..' thread.

 

[sponge]

We've already had one. I binned it. The bloke then immediately started ranting on about censorship and David Shayler on another thread, so I banned him.

I find this strange, because if a claim has no foundation, lets look shall we?

 

[pk]

Hang on! You're the slimy fascist who wants to jack up Islamic clerics with pigs blood aren't you? So what kind of mental disorder are you suffering from, like?

Not exactly true though is it bigfish - you're bullshitting again like the conspiranoid tosser you are:

I've said that Islamic clerics who support terrorist attacks on innocent Londoners and who have gone on record as saying British children are legitamate targets, sure, strap them up to a table opposite the largest Tamworth pig you can find, stick the drips in, and press the SUCK button on the cleric cunt and the BLOW button on the porker.

If nothing else it means the cunt would never be accepted into whatever fucked up sense of Allah's paradise he's expecting to enter, after advocating blowing up our kids.

And I imagine it would hurt like fuck too.

All good.

Bigfish - do you support Dr Jazzz's stupid idea that vaccines are worse than the diseases they prevent?

Do you think kids should avoid the MMR and take their chances?

Or are you just sticking up for the remaining mate you have left just for the sake of it?

 

[bigfish]

... I've said that Islamic clerics who support terrorist attacks on innocent Londoners and who have gone on record as saying British children are legitamate targets, sure, strap them up to a table opposite the largest Tamworth pig you can find, stick the drips in, and press the SUCK button on the cleric cunt and the BLOW button on the porker.

Thanks for clearing that point up for me Porky. I had thought you to be just another regular issue petty media fascist brain doner, but I can see now that you are also a deranged maniac.

 

[slaar]

look you utter twat - everyone else knows the difference between vaccines and antibiotics.

Can't you stop shit-stirring for one fucking day?

Although, interestingly, previous posts of yours have not by claiming scarlet fever as a virus not a bacterial infection.

 

[pk]

Thanks for clearing that point up for me Porky. I had thought you to be just another regular issue petty media fascist brain doner, but I can see now that you are also a deranged maniac.

I'm happy though. Look at me. Cool as fuck.

You however seem to get turned on by late night repeats of Babylon 5.

I pity you, and your circle of tin-foil cat-poo.

Come back when you've lived a little.

 

[frogwoman]

Have to say that I felt much the same way about those terrorist supporting scum when I heard the news of the bombs, mate. I like Ken Livingstone but I think he really should have known better when he kissed up to known supporters and apologetics for terrorism.

I do have respect for George Galloway for speaking his mind and telling the truth, but it was on the day of the attacks and so that was very insensitive.

 

[Blagsta]

Now then, thank you bob the lost for helping me help loki!

Loki, there is a man called bob the lost, and one called fela fan (not felan, bob the lost!).

Now bob the lost is bob the lost according to bob the lost.

Same goes for fela fan.

But, bob the lost reckons fela fan is a conspiracy fan. But fela fan knows fela fan is not a conspiracy fan, and unless fela fan is irrational, insane, or plain pig-headead/deceitful, then that must be taken as a fact.

So why does bob the lost think fela fan is a conspiracy fan? Since fela fan has now told him fela fan is not a conspiracy fan, then what bob thinks i am is more down to himself than anything that fela fan is. The very fact that bob has decided fela fan is a conspiracy fan is down to bob's own set of rules, laws, morals, understandings, experiences (all of which judge external things only having gone through the host's perceptive filter). Fela fan in this instance acts as a mirror.

So should bob wish to examine this particular aspect of his character/life experience to find out why he was wrong, then he can self-analyse by looking in the mirror, ie in this situation fela fan.

If that doesn't make sense then fair dos. But in essence when we level a judgement at somebody, we are really exposing our own belief system rather than necessarily being accurate about the object of our judgement. That object can very accurately however act as a mirror to the self.

I think you'll find that psychoanalysts call that process "projection". However in this case, you do appear to be nuttier than squirrel shit.

 

[Loki]

Now then, thank you bob the lost for helping me help loki!

Loki, there is a man called bob the lost, and one called fela fan (not felan, bob the lost!).

Now bob the lost is bob the lost according to bob the lost.

Same goes for fela fan.

But, bob the lost reckons fela fan is a conspiracy fan. But fela fan knows fela fan is not a conspiracy fan, and unless fela fan is irrational, insane, or plain pig-headead/deceitful, then that must be taken as a fact.

So why does bob the lost think fela fan is a conspiracy fan? Since fela fan has now told him fela fan is not a conspiracy fan, then what bob thinks i am is more down to himself than anything that fela fan is. The very fact that bob has decided fela fan is a conspiracy fan is down to bob's own set of rules, laws, morals, understandings, experiences (all of which judge external things only having gone through the host's perceptive filter). Fela fan in this instance acts as a mirror.

So should bob wish to examine this particular aspect of his character/life experience to find out why he was wrong, then he can self-analyse by looking in the mirror, ie in this situation fela fan.

If that doesn't make sense then fair dos. But in essence when we level a judgement at somebody, we are really exposing our own belief system rather than necessarily being accurate about the object of our judgement. That object can very accurately however act as a mirror to the self.

I've just noticed this post. Thanks for being so, er, illuminating. You must have angled the mirrors to reflect the sun in the correct juxtaposition with your perspective filters.

 

[fela fan]

I think you'll find that psychoanalysts call that process "projection". However in this case, you do appear to be nuttier than squirrel shit.

I don't care what any analyst calls it.

If you cannot understand it, then apologies. It's not easy to put some stuff into language. I'm sure if i gave it more time i could do a bit better, but this is not the forum for that.

And you neatly encapsulate what i was saying by telling me how i appear to be not complis mentis. You are saying that based on your own ideas in life. Obviously i'm nowhere near mad/nutty/insane/a squirrel shit, but i have appeared into your consciousness to act as a mirror to your own beliefs and ideas.

Now look mate, if you don't get it, then don't worry. Try again some time.

 

[fela fan]

I've just noticed this post. Thanks for being so, er, illuminating. You must have angled the mirrors to reflect the sun in the correct juxtaposition with your perspective filters.

too busy taking the piss to make any efforts to understand eh...

 

[Loki]

too busy taking the piss to make any efforts to understand eh...

What's there to understand? You've never explained these perplexing perspective filters or mysterious mirrors so I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Blagsta]

I don't care what any analyst calls it.

Maybe you should do, it might help you understand what you're talking about.

If you cannot understand it, then apologies. It's not easy to put some stuff into language. I'm sure if i gave it more time i could do a bit better, but this is not the forum for that.

I understand it thanks, I'm quite familiar with psychoanalysis.

And you neatly encapsulate what i was saying by telling me how i appear to be not complis mentis. You are saying that based on your own ideas in life. Obviously i'm nowhere near mad/nutty/insane/a squirrel shit, but i have appeared into your consciousness to act as a mirror to your own beliefs and ideas.

Well you seem to think you invented the concept of projection. That's a tad worrying. Do you think you're a reincarnation of Freud or something?

Now look mate, if you don't get it, then don't worry. Try again some time.

I get it fine thanks, more than you do I think. The trick is to be able to distinguish between your own projections and reality - something you seem to have a massive problem with, judging by your skewed paranoid view of the world. I can recommend a good therapist if you like.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

I think my girlfriend was quite frightened.

If I were your girlfriend...

 

[editor]

but i have appeared into your consciousness to act as a mirror to your own beliefs and ideas.

You're not back on the fucking mirrors again, are you?

 

[Techno303]

However, I dare say I'm right far more often than my detractors. The reason I get so much stick over vaccines is that my end is surprisingly well held up in debate - ask techno303 or slaar.

Hmmmmm. I’ve only just noticed this so excuse the bump.

For the record, and this is not a personal attack DrJazzz, I don’t think you hold your end of the vaccine ‘debate’ “surprisingly well”. I think you spout a load of twaddle

*deep breath* For what it is worth and to avoid the (mis)assumption that could be made from the above quote; that is that I somehow agree or lean towards your wholly unscientific bent - see this thread for a gentle reminder:

<cough>

I do however enjoy debunking your mad vaccine theories but doing so in a manner that doesn’t have to resort to personal attacks and derail into petty insults and on that note and that note alone I think you’ll find we agree.

 

[slaar]

Hmm, didn't notice that either.

Likewise.

As you were.

 

[editor]

For what it is worth and to avoid the (mis)assumption that could be made from the above quote; that is that I somehow agree or lean towards your wholly unscientific bent - see this thread for a gentle reminder:

<cough>

Tee hee! DrJ's "expert" has managed just one peer reviewed publication in over 25 years!

Priceless!

Still, at least he existed. Another of the 'experts' DrJ cited in the past turned out be a completely untraceable 'retired expert' with no published papers whatsoever throughout his entire career - in fact there was no evidence of his existence - and he was supposedly posting on an unnamed, untraceable bulletin board!

Did DrJ believe such a ludicrous and highly unlikely source quoted from some dodgy website or another? Course he did!

 

[Bob_the_lost]

You're not back on the fucking mirrors again, are you?

Are they still class A mirrors he's on?