I can't fund the Masters course I want to take.

[Kanda]

Personally speaking I wouldn't spend £4k and a year out working to do a masters in something like that. If I was going to do a Masters in environmentalism I'd do it in something useful and practical like architecture, engineering, or environmental science rather than something conjectural as global warming. It's a bit wishy washy.

Aye, kinda agree.

 

[fogbat]

Go hide on a whaling boat with some corned beef, they'll never find you. Get one of those peruvian fappy hats to look the part.

Happily, I've moved around a lot and have an incredibly generic name.

I get seasick on boats

 

[cliche guevara]

Personally speaking I wouldn't spend £4k and a year out working to do a masters in something like that. If I was going to do a Masters in environmentalism I'd do it in something useful and practical like architecture, engineering, or environmental science rather than something conjectural as global warming. It's a bit wishy washy.

Global Environmental Change. It's been recommended by her careers advisor and one of her lecturers who is v. highly regarded within the field. Whether or not she should be doing the course is not up for debate, the thread is about potential options for funding it.

 

[madzone]

Global Environmental Change.

I'm still a bit confused. What actual job would that lead to and why would one need a masters?

 

[pengaleng]

same difference init? no?

 

[cliche guevara]

I'm still a bit confused. What actual job would that lead to and why would one need a masters?

Because she wants a lab based career. The requirements include post grad education.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

And is it an area where a masters automatically enables someone to get the job they want at the end, or is previous experience at less qualified jobs needed to? Because in many cases, lower level experience and a masters makes you more attractive than just a masters.

I think my point is that a career doesn't have to happen immediately after an undergrad. For example, I didn't start post grad training till 6 years after graduating from my first degree, and will be starting my career proper 9 years afterwards.

 

[Paraletic]

Global Environmental Change. It's been recommended by her careers advisor and one of her lecturers who is v. highly regarded within the field.

Lecturers protecting their own jobs shocker.

All I am saying is personally if I was doing a degree or a masters in that area I'd do it in something specific

 

[sim667]

Just out of interest what kind of career demands that you need a maters before you can get into it at any level?

University lecturer for started...... often they like you to have a PhD and some publications


OP how many contact hours is it per week....... your may well find you could do it and hold down a 0.7 job or something........ a lot of masters are only 4-6 contact hours per week.

 

[madzone]

Because she wants a lab based career. The requirements include post grad education.

But it seems a bit of a leap to go from (self confessed) shitty seasonal job to doing a masters and suddenly having a spangly career. There has to be something inbetween

 

[cliche guevara]

But it seems a bit of a leap to go from (self confessed) shitty seasonal job to doing a masters and suddenly having a spangly career. There has to be something inbetween

What, like several years of studying? No one has said the career has to be spangly In fact the kind of careers she's looking at are pretty low paid compared to others that require the same level of qualifiations, it's about doing a job you find rewarding.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

University lecturer for started...... often they like you to have a PhD and some publications

Well, most researchers I know do research assistant work first. I've held a research worker post without having a masters*. You can go straight into a masters or PhD from an undergrad, but it's not essential.

*It taught me to never become a professional academic.

 

[pengaleng]

What, like several years of studying? No one has said the career has to be spangly In fact the kind of careers she's looking at are pretty low paid compared to others that require the same level of qualifiations, it's about doing a job you find rewarding.

employers like to see real actual experience rather than epic amounts of study though, sorry to piss on your chips, but you both sound very naive about this.

 

[madzone]

What, like several years of studying? No one has said the career has to be spangly In fact the kind of careers she's looking at are pretty low paid compared to others that require the same level of qualifiations, it's about doing a job you find rewarding.

I'm still not really getting it. Going from a £500 a month seasonal job to a job that dictates you have to have a masters and no experience just seems a bit ... I dunno....just doesn't make sense to me. If it was me I'd be looking to do a bit more work in that particular field and working my way up whilst saving to do the masters to get whatever the job is that dictates it.

And how do other people fund it?

 

[cliche guevara]

Research assistant work within the field is incredibly hard to come by from all accounts. Anyway, the choice of occupation is not up for debate here. She wants to work within a field she finds interesting, these are the requirements, and she's trying to find out how she can fund it.

 

[madzone]

I'm just wondering if the info you've been given is a bit misleading. Something just isn't tringing true.

 

[Kanda]

And how do other people fund it?

work for a few years.

 

[cliche guevara]

I'm still not really getting it. Going from a £500 a month seasonal job to a job that dictates you have to have a masters and no experience just seems a bit ... I dunno....just doesn't make sense to me. If it was me I'd be looking to do a bit more work in that particular field and working my way up whilst saving to do the masters to get whatever the job is that dictates it.

Work within the field is practically non existant unless you are educated to at last a MSc level.

And how do other people fund it?

That's why she started this thread

 

[madzone]

Work within the field is practically non existant unless you are educated to at last a MSc level.

That's why she started this thread

So, everyone who works in Global Environmental Change is educated to MSc level but have no relevant experience? Bizarre.

I suspect most people work while doing their post grad quals

 

[Agent Sparrow]

What, like several years of studying? No one has said the career has to be spangly In fact the kind of careers she's looking at are pretty low paid compared to others that require the same level of qualifiations, it's about doing a job you find rewarding.

The thing is, if idioteque could afford to do it immediately then great, but that sounds like it's not feasible at the moment (unless one of the other suggestions works out). Unfortunately the bad thing about fees is they can make it very difficult for people without access to money to study. I guess what other people, including myself, are suggesting that it's not the worst thing in the world to take a year or two out to get some practical experience before then going back to uni, in a stronger financial position. If that work is relevant then it puts the person in a stronger position employment wise at the end of the course, and even if it isn't, you can argue for transferable skills. And relevant work can be classified as jobs beyond the immediately obvious.

Tbh, I'm actually quite pleased I had to take time out to work in relevant jobs before going back to uni. Yes, a couple of them were badly paid and I had to cope with a summer of unpaid work too, but actually, a bit of time to breathe between qualifications has it's plus side.

Idioteque, a year or two of working before studying is not necessarily a terrible outcome.

 

[pengaleng]

So, everyone who works in Global Environmental Change is educated to MSc level but have no relevant experience? Bizarre.

but probably the reason why the environment is going to shit lol

 

[madzone]

The thing is, if idioteque could afford to do it immediately then great, but that sounds like it's not feasible at the moment (unless one of the other suggestions works out). Unfortunately the bad thing about fees is they can make it very difficult for people without access to money to study. I guess what other people, including myself, are suggesting that it's not the worst thing in the world to take a year or two out to get some practical experience before then going back to uni, in a stronger financial position. If that work is relevant then it puts the person in a stronger position employment wise at the end of the course, and even if it isn't, you can argue for transferable skills. And relevant work can be classified as jobs beyond the immediately obvious.

Tbh, I'm actually quite pleased I had to take time out to work in relevant jobs before going back to uni. Yes, a couple of them were badly paid and I had to cope with a summer of unpaid work too, but actually, a bit of time to breathe between qualifications has it's plus side.

Idioteque, a year or two of working before studying is not necessarily a terrible outcome.

Good post

There's no rush really is there? I'm 44 ad I'm going bck to do the degree I want to do. I intend to do post grad study as well but that will be subsidised by whatever job I decide to take on the way up.

 

[London_Calling]

As above: Get a job first. Save the planet a year later. Bloody hippies!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Probably throwing tins of corned beef at Whaling Vessels wearing a bobble hat and using unsavoury language.

And defusing bombs that the French secret service have planted on your ship.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Personally speaking I wouldn't spend £4k and a year out working to do a masters in something like that. If I was going to do a Masters in environmentalism I'd do it in something useful and practical like architecture, engineering, or environmental science rather than something conjectural as global warming. It's a bit wishy washy.

To be fair, "Environmental Science" is even more "catch-all" than "Global Environmental Change". It spans pretty much the entirety of subjects that have anything at all to do with the environment.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Lecturers protecting their own jobs shocker.

All I am saying is personally if I was doing a degree or a masters in that area I'd do it in something specific

Thing is, you can't really get properly specific unless you do a phd, and even then you'll still be somewhat constrained by what your supervisor(s) think is a worthwhile avenue of exploration.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm still not really getting it. Going from a £500 a month seasonal job to a job that dictates you have to have a masters and no experience just seems a bit ... I dunno....just doesn't make sense to me. If it was me I'd be looking to do a bit more work in that particular field and working my way up whilst saving to do the masters to get whatever the job is that dictates it.

And how do other people fund it?

Working and saving; doing the masters part-time; getting a bursary or award to offset all or part of the cost; prostitution.

Or, if you've got parents with a bit of spare dosh...

 

[Fuzzy]

have you got existing student debt? i got a career development loan to fund my masters. the course had to be work related in that you were going to get a job as something at the end of it. that was 10 years ago though so its probably changed.

 

[ViolentPanda]

have you got existing student debt? i got a career development loan to fund my masters. the course had to be work related in that you were going to get a job as something at the end of it. that was 10 years ago though so its probably changed.

The prodigal son returns!

 

[toblerone3]

I got a research council bursary to fund my masters this year. Course fees paid plus a thousand pounds a month maintenance.