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I repeat.... England are gonna win the World Cup!
I believe ENGLAND can win the World Cup!
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The czechs are going to win it.
If I were scottish I would be severely tempted by the odds for the Trinidad game. 6.5-1 for a draw and 21-1 for the win. Trinidad will try even harder against us than they did against Sweden. When did England last go into the final game already qualified for the next round? I don't think we had even done so in 66! I bet we will fuck it up. Well worth betting on. IMO. And I'm English. (And possibly truying to reverse-jinx it).
Seems eerily similar to the situation last September though. Poor win over Wales, where we went 1-0 up unconvincingly and then clung on at the end, followed by gutsy win by team we should have beaten, whose odds were in the 20s....
Seems eerily similar to the situation last September though. Poor win over Wales, where we went 1-0 up unconvincingly and then clung on at the end, followed by gutsy win by team we should have beaten, whose odds were in the 20s....
jammer said:
Why aren't you positively supporting the team you like best, rather than just negatively sniping at England?
You, and a few others, have done little else on the forum since the Word Cup started.
BTW I don't think England will win either, but that's not the point -- far too many people wanting in advance to assume that England winning it is impossible, simply because they don't like England anyway and never have -- hence the unremittingly negative gloating and sniping from some -- this ABE shite is fucking tedious!!!
I still think England are going to win it. You cna talk about the Czechs, but they were playing a side without quality, I was more impressed by Argentina and Italy who played sides with quality and won.
Brazil, England, Argentina, Italy and Holland are still the oens to watch.
Brazil, England, Argentina, Italy and Holland are still the oens to watch.
sleaterkinney
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I can't believe that people would put England, who looked very ordainary and only won due to a mistake on at the same level as Italy, Argentina, Brazil?
But the USA team (and OK I know their ranking is unrealistic) had been talked up by quite a few people as being possibles to reach the quarters (and beyond) again this time.
Having said that I would tend to agree that England aren't as bad as people are saying...
It should be noted that each team that has beaten Paraguay 1-0 in the previous 2 world cups has either reached the final or won the bloody thing. Let's make it three in a row
Having said that I would tend to agree that England aren't as bad as people are saying...
It should be noted that each team that has beaten Paraguay 1-0 in the previous 2 world cups has either reached the final or won the bloody thing. Let's make it three in a row
sleaterkinney said:
I feel that's a complete misassesment.
Firstly I would say that most games are won/lost on mistakes, but the own goal was not a gross piece of luck as some would potray it, it was more down to the excellence of the delivery by Beckham than a defensive blunder by Gamarra. If Gamarra doesn't intercept it both JT and Michael OWen were waitng directly behind him, but the reason that David Beckham is so good a crosses is that he flights the ball in such a way that the simplest of touches will turn the ball into the net.
It creates a dielmma for the defender ,either they don't intercept it and they leave a free header off a good ball for the attacker or they do and risk turning it into there own net. We scored simlair own goal off a Beckham free kick against Jamaica for the same reason.
For most of the first half England really didn't do anything wrong. In the second half they faded. WHilst it would of defitnely been better for them to condolidate their lead in the end Paraguay only managed a couple of half chances despite being a goal down from the 3rd minute.
It was by no means a blockbusting perfomnace, but it's foolish to think they've somehow worsened their chances.
RenegadeDog said:But the USA team (and OK I know their ranking is unrealistic) had been talked up by quite a few people as being possibles to reach the quarters (and beyond) again this time.
Having said that I would tend to agree that England aren't as bad as people are saying...
It should be noted that each team that has beaten Paraguay 1-0 in the previous 2 world cups has either reached the final or won the bloody thing. Let's make it three in a row
I'b ehera dsome people predict them to get into the second round, I myself thought they might get points off the Czechs as I had a sneaker suspicon the European would disappoint (I was clearly wrong). But they were huge longshots for the quarters as they would've had to win their group or probably face Brazil in the second round. The quality of the players they have is not great. Brian McBride of Fulham is their best striker by a country mile (so much so that they didn't trust any of their other striker sto play and played 4-5-1) that said Eddie Johnson who plays in the MLS and who was once subject to a transfer bid by Benefica looked suprisingly impressive when he came on in the 2nd half.
William of Walworth said:Why aren't you positively supporting the team you like best, rather than just negatively sniping at England?
You, and a few others, have done little else on the forum since the Word Cup started.
BTW I don't think England will win either, but that's not the point -- far too many people wanting in advance to assume that England winning it is impossible, simply because they don't like England anyway and never have -- hence the unremittingly negative gloating and sniping from some -- this ABE shite is fucking tedious!!!
its called freedom of speech (that thing that so annoys all of you)..
and how dare i say anything about dear old england
english---the americans of europe
sleaterkinney
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bless, they created s.f.a. and the odd free kick won't win you anything. They'll get out of their group but wait until they come up against a more decent team.jcsd said:
Explain that one to me.
I said "supposedly aimed at" because it seems some are dead set on lumping all the England fans together into one big, racist, jingoistic mob. I watched the Paraguay match in a boozer, must have been around 200 fans in there drinking and singing, three idiots started the No Surrender chant, they tried to get it going about three times, everyone just looked at them and shook their heads, they eventually gave up and fucked off. The pub was full of proper fans, big scary looking white lads, some black chaps, asians, all there to watch the match and get bladdered, not there to spout racist bigoted shite.
A nice, lovely story there peace and all that.
A nice, lovely story there
peace and all that.ddraig said:sorry boss, <doffs cap> should it be toned down for your sensitive eyes?
I'm not sensitive, just have some time on my hands
The thing is, if it was aimed at any other nation posts would be reported, threads would be binned and maybe even the odd ban would ensue.
Rather than sensitivity, being thick-skinned might be one of our best qualities.
sleaterkinney said:bless, they created s.f.a. and the odd free kick won't win you anything. They'll get out of their group but wait until they come up against a more decent team.
Explain that one to me.
Your missing the point they didn't need to create anything, Paraguay never gave them any impetus. Of course they should of tried harder to consolidate their lead, but at the end pf the day the result is king.
What I mean is that on the back of the game against a pretty decent team that they won you don;t demote them from one of the favourites to no-hopers.
sleaterkinney
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With the players they have it was a bad performance, I don't see how you can dismiss that.jcsd said:
They never were one of the favourites.jcsd said:
sleaterkinney said:
You can say could do better, but theperformance is a mior xconsidertaion comapre to the fact theywon the game without being seriiously threatened.
You can say it should've been better, but it was not deficient for the task at hand. Also it would be mad to think they'd approach a QF with Argentina in the same manner.
They never were one of the favourites.
Yes they were and they still are.
ChrisFilter
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jcsd said:
Indeed.. most foreign bookies have them in the top 4 favourites.
I think all the ABE is fucking tedious as well, William, but then none of the other local nations are in the World Cup, so there's crap from Ireland as well as the usual shit from Scotland, Wales, and the English anti-England brigade.
It is a bit sad.. but it can't be stopped, so I'm trying, with limited success, to rise above it.
Stobart Stopper
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LOL! Are you serious? Argentina will win it.urb said:I think we've got the STRONGEST team I've ever seen! Seriously.
Even without Rooney and even with Sven's strange tactics..... I am 100% certain that England will kick some serious arse in Germany 2006.
We got a shitload of world class players, we got an easy group to qualify from.
And the cherry on the cake is that Beckham is on form!
You can criticize them for taking the pedal off the metal, but not to much because not only did it not utimately matter, but merely playing to contain Parguay defensiively turned out to be a perfectly adequate strategy.
Sure they're going to have to play differently to beat teams liek Italy, Holland, etc, but thta's just staing the fucking obvious.
Sure they're going to have to play differently to beat teams liek Italy, Holland, etc, but thta's just staing the fucking obvious.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Stobart Stopper said:
England are better than Argentina.. they're over-rated imho.. Brazil will win it.
