I believe ENGLAND can win the World Cup!

[ddraig]

Don't rise to the bait of the taffies. It's just the same old pathetic repetitive lie constructed by the other 'home' nations just to try and keep the myth alive by saying that we, the English, think that we're better than everyone else.

We're not arrogant, it's the home nations that are bitter and who are keeping this perpetual myth going.

fuking priceless!

 

[diond]

fuking priceless!

Keep it up little fan boy. Fawning over threads that have something to do with England in the World Cup. It's not England and Wales football team you know. Bless, trying to sound as if it's not bothered. I'll give you two out of ten. Must try harder.

 

[RaverDrew]

Don't rise to the bait of the taffies. It's just the same old pathetic repetitive lie constructed by the other 'home' nations just to try and keep the myth alive by saying that we, the English, think that we're better than everyone else.

We're not arrogant, it's the home nations that are bitter and who are keeping this perpetual myth going.

post of the week

 

[Flashman]

here ya go
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...all.html?in_article_id=387490&in_page_id=1779
lol


see the Wales forum for the cricket argument

rwy da chi Cymrukid

I meant prove that we're the only nation that has booked a parade, I knew we had. Why on Earth would I want to visit the Wales forum? Don't get me wrong, I like the Welsh, but I'm not Welsh. If you want to discuss the merits of Simon Jones (we might not have won the Ashes without him) or Welsh cricket start a thread here in the Sports forum.

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

I don't mind if England do well , there's some top people on here . .. Bomber , Onket .. be good for them to follow a succesful team


( may have to rib them if they don't tho )

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

1. Proove that.

2. Who cares? The England and Wales (see that? England and Wales) cricket board booked Trafalgar Square and various streets off in anticipation of an Ashes victory, how stupid would it have looked in they'd not booked them off and we'd have won? Sorry, we can't have a parade because the governing body didn't have the foresight to clear the streets for the day. It's ironic, you're so blinded by your green, red and white glasses that you cannot see the wood for the trees.

Don't mention the fucking cricket ..........Ahhhhhhh.. it's a gentlemans game that provokes the bitterest of exchanges .

 

[fanta]

You're Welsh

 

[muser]

here ya go
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...all.html?in_article_id=387490&in_page_id=1779
lol


see the Wales forum for the cricket argument

rwy da chi Cymrukid

The link doesn't mention whether the FA has booked a victory parade or not. Their representative decline to say. Trust the Daily mail, and Daily mail readers.

 

[muser]

First, I'm not sure that anyone on this thread has asserted that England will definitely win the World Cup. All that has been said is that we have a chance to do so.

You're right to point out that England have failed in recent tournaments when confronted with the big guns. However, of the four examples you give, I think it's worth pointing out that England battered France for eighty minutes before conceding two late goals, England would probably have beaten Portugal had it not been for Rooney's injury (admittedly, Sven's absence of a plan B didn't help) and we would also probably have beaten Argentina had Beckham not got himself sent off in France 1998. I'll give you the Brazil game, but that was a product of the heat as much as the amazing ball-retention skills of the Brazilians and Sven's lack of plan B.

Germany and Brazil do have the "nerve" that you identify as being a critical ingredient of any successful team. But the Italians? They haven't won a tournament since 1982 and have regularly fallen short in matches that they should have won comfortably.

I think this is the best-balanced England team of the last 40 years and has the best chance of winning a tournament in that time. However, I still expect us to go out to Brazil in the semi-finals.

This is risible. England were battered by France for 80 minutes and then let in 2 quick goals, from the foot of one of the best players ever to grace the game. All the best sides in the world can retain possession for longer periods than England. England play a bit like Liverpool, only when they are a goal down do they start to play. If they go a goal up you can expect them to go home early.
England play with their hearts and not with their heads. Sven has tried to instill discipline and to a degree it has worked. Qualification for the 2002 WC, and his record in general would be hard to match.
I was in a cab once and the cab driver said that he would rather Sven out. He said it had nothing to do with his nationality, citing the fact that Sven never got animated! I love England, would love them to win. My heart says yes, my head says no.

 

[Sunray]

I actually think that this team now, is the equal of the team that France was when they won it. If they win it this time , they will have a very good chance at winning the next one as well after which it will be on how good the next crop of players are.

 

[Mr Retro]

Owen played like a Brazillian, setting up Lampard for the first goal. He also beat the keeper for his own goal later on. A true striker!

We you watching the same game as me? Owens speed has gone along with his confidence. His goal was down to bad defending. One or 2 nice touches were his total contribution.

Fine for your main striker to play that badly against a poor Jamaican side with third rate defenders but not good enough for the world cup.

England won't win the world cup because they aren't good enough up front or at the back.

<Marsellus Wallace>
Now thats a hard motherfucken fact of life, but it's a fact your ass is gonna hafta get realistic about
</Marsellus Wallace>

 

[spacemonkey]

I don't care how good your squad is.

FACT: You will get knocked out on penalties.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

We you watching the same game as me? Owens speed has gone along with his confidence. His goal was down to bad defending. One or 2 nice touches were his total contribution.

The constant injuries have done for his speed, when you look at his goal, a half arsed defence wont be that flat footed and I dare say the concept of 'marking' may have reached the rest of the world by friday, plus a better goalkeeper will be out quicker and stay on his feet longer.

That said, on paper, two assists and a goal is a decent performance.

 

[Azrael23]

Well seeing as its a game and literally anything could happen, whats the point in all this jibba-jabba?

People talking coded nonsense at eachother, its quite sad. Why can`t we just sit down and enjoy the game when its on, rather than building it all up into some kind of religious fervour of "we must win".....


WHO GIVES A FUCK. I hope we don`t win, if we do its going to drive me insane everyone banging on about solidly for the next 40 years.... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[Harold Hill]

This is risible. England were battered by France for 80 minutes and then let in 2 quick goals, from the foot of one of the best players ever to grace the game. All the best sides in the world can retain possession for longer periods than England. England play a bit like Liverpool, only when they are a goal down do they start to play. If they go a goal up you can expect them to go home early.
England play with their hearts and not with their heads. Sven has tried to instill discipline and to a degree it has worked. Qualification for the 2002 WC, and his record in general would be hard to match.
.

Excellent analysis.

The worrying thing is, it is often our best players that are chief culprits for giving the ball away.

 

[aylee]

I haven't doubted the strength of the team, I just I believe that they pale in comparison to Brazil, and also find it hard to believe that anybody could label Hargreaves exceptional. I actively hope you England lose because of their typical arrogance.

 

[Rollem]

this morning, for some unknown reason, i found myself believing

the feeling has passed, but i am sure it will return, if only for a little while....

and just for the record, the victory parade is not "booked" merely the route decided. not arrogance, just covering all eventualities

 

[Lazarus]

A message to everyone that thinks England will definitely win the World Cup this year ....

Did any of you la la land motherfuckers actually watch essentially, the same England team play against France and Portugal at Euro 2004? Fucking did you? What about against Brazil in the last World Cup?

Generally, what I find, is that when I'm going to get on my high fucking horse, I tend to do a bit of background reading first. You thick twat.

Here is the team that got beat by Brazil in the last world cup.

David Seaman
Danny Mills
Rio Ferdinand
Sol Campbell
Ashley Cole
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Paul Scholes
Trevor Sinclair
Emile Heskey
Michael Owen

Subs
Teddy Sheringham
Darius Vassell
Kieron Dyer

That team (squad) is considerably worse than the one we have now. You fucking bell end.

Carry on.

 

[Balbi]

Danny Mills
Trevor Sinclair
Emile Heskey
Darius Vassell
Kieron Dyer

Oh dear sweet lord in heaven, did we really think we'd win with that lot

Fucking looney.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Proof of the pudding is in the eating.

And Ronaldo looks like he's been eating a lot of puddings.

Whereas, David Beckham came 2nd in a recent fitness test of the England squad. And we all know what David can do when he's fit.

 

[ICB]

Of course England can win.

So can every other team in the finals, that's a matter of fact.

Whether it's at all likely is another matter, one of probability, which I'm in no position to assess, nor, I would guess, is anyone else, given a fairly large chaotic factor. There are perhaps half a dozen teams who stand a fair chance on paper and to claim anything more is mere hyperbole.

Why am I even here? I don't give a fuck about this.

 

[Rollem]

Whereas, David Beckham came 2nd in a recent fitness test of the England squad.

who came first?

 

[Bonfirelight]

theo walcotts girlfriend arf arf.

 

[jammer]

Proof of the pudding is in the eating.

And Ronaldo looks like he's been eating a lot of puddings.

Whereas, David Beckham came 2nd in a recent fitness test of the England squad. And we all know what David can do when he's fit.

try and hit owen with a series of long balls?

 

[exosculate]

These young ladies believe.

 

[zed]

Generally, what I find, is that when I'm going to get on my high fucking horse, I tend to do a bit of background reading first. You thick twat.

Here is the team that got beat by Brazil in the last world cup.

David Seaman
Danny Mills
Rio Ferdinand
Sol Campbell
Ashley Cole
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Paul Scholes
Trevor Sinclair
Emile Heskey
Michael Owen

Subs
Teddy Sheringham
Darius Vassell
Kieron Dyer

That team (squad) is considerably worse than the one we have now. You fucking bell end.

Carry on.

Wanker.

Read what I posted again ....out loud if necessary. Let me help you. Here's what I said ....

" ...actually watch essentially, the same England team play against France and Portugal at Euro 2004?" Nowhere did I say the "essentially same team that played Brazil. I said "France and Portugal". Not Brazil.

Here is the team that played against France at Euro 2004:

James
Gary Neville
King
Campbell
Ashley Cole
Beckham
Lampard
Gerrard
Scholes
Rooney
Owen

Subs Robinson, Bridge, Butt, Carragher, Joe Cole, Dyer, Phil Neville, Terry.

There's a lot of players there that will probably be in the team at this World Cup. About 8 by my reckoning. What was that you said about research?

You fucking idiot.

 

[Balbi]

massive improvement in goalkeeping, defensive and midfield positions from what I can see Zed

James .... Robinson, much better all round player.
Gary Neville .... Gary Neville, now captaining his side.
King .... Terry, Chelsea captain and better experienced than King all round
Campbell .... Ferdinand, been dodgy occasionally but better than poor old Sol this year
Ashley Cole .... Ashley Cole, Fitness worries are his only problem this time round
Beckham .... Beckham, Actually remembering how to play football; for england and madrid
Lampard .... Lampard, Leaps and bounds in the last two years, only worry is recent dip in form
Gerrard .... Well, he's just Captain fantastic innit
Scholes .... Joe Cole, settled into the left side like he's lived there
Rooney .... Crouch, yeah - I know, I know. Better than Heskey, Vassell in the big man up front role
Owen .... Owen, worryingly out of fitness and form - fortunately surrounded by class fit players to get him back to health

Robinson .... James, finally where he belongs gathering arse splinters
Bridge .... Bridge, steady as he goes for the left back
Butt .... Carrick, much better than Butt in 2004 - he'd just turned to turd
Carragher .... he's got even bloody better at what he does
Joe Cole .... Downing, what? A left sided midfielder with talent. Never.
Dyer .... Lennon, fast and furious tyke - IMO better than crock of crap Dire.
Phil Neville .... ROFLMAO, Phil Neville. Adequately covered by Carragher. Replacement this time round is Jenas. He'll do.
Terry .... Campbell, been dodgy of late but can still hold a decent place.

And then there's Rooney, Walcott, Hargreaves and Carson.

This is a much better team than 2004

 

[zed]

massive improvement in goalkeeping, defensive and midfield positions from what I can see Zed

James .... Robinson, much better all round player.
Gary Neville .... Gary Neville, now captaining his side.
King .... Terry, Chelsea captain and better experienced than King all round
Campbell .... Ferdinand, been dodgy occasionally but better than poor old Sol this year
Ashley Cole .... Ashley Cole, Fitness worries are his only problem this time round
Beckham .... Beckham, Actually remembering how to play football; for england and madrid
Lampard .... Lampard, Leaps and bounds in the last two years, only worry is recent dip in form
Gerrard .... Well, he's just Captain fantastic innit
Scholes .... Joe Cole, settled into the left side like he's lived there
Rooney .... Crouch, yeah - I know, I know. Better than Heskey, Vassell in the big man up front role
Owen .... Owen, worryingly out of fitness and form - fortunately surrounded by class fit players to get him back to health

Robinson .... James, finally where he belongs gathering arse splinters
Bridge .... Bridge, steady as he goes for the left back
Butt .... Carrick, much better than Butt in 2004 - he'd just turned to turd
Carragher .... he's got even bloody better at what he does
Joe Cole .... Downing, what? A left sided midfielder with talent. Never.
Dyer .... Lennon, fast and furious tyke - IMO better than crock of crap Dire.
Phil Neville .... ROFLMAO, Phil Neville. Adequately covered by Carragher. Replacement this time round is Jenas. He'll do.
Terry .... Campbell, been dodgy of late but can still hold a decent place.

And then there's Rooney, Walcott, Hargreaves and Carson.

This is a much better team than 2004

All very subjective Lostprophet.

Still basically the same team though ....and the same tactics, same manager, same lack of nerve (probably ...although I hope I am wrong).

Who is Carson?

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I think Sven's mindset has changed since those two crap performances last August-September. He's going for a more attacking approach. 9 goals in two warmup games is hardly anything to moan about - sure I know Jamaica were shite, but England a few years ago would still only have beaten them 2-0...

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Who is Carson?

Champions League medal winner.