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I am willing to admit that Joshua Tree was a good album

Joshua tree


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"Immensely popular band hugely derided because of popularity shock! 'They were good when they were shit, but now they're not shit I think they're shit' said a fan who used to like them before everyone else liked them and then didn't like them anymore because everyone else did."
 
Superape said:
"Immensely popular band hugely derided because of popularity shock! 'They were good when they were shit, but now they're not shit I think they're shit' said a fan who used to like them before everyone else liked them and then didn't like them anymore because everyone else did."


no. they're derided because people don't like them.

if you're going to use weak argument #3 out of the urban book of really fucking weak arguments (ie - "you only dislike them to look cool / cos they're popular" etc) you could do it with just a LITTLE more style.

and gabi: you're a twat :)
 
killer b said:
you can cock off too. we're deriding them 'cos they're shit, not 'cos they're popular. :)

I'm not, i'm deriding them because they're popular. Before that they were right up my street. Boring rock format, overblown lyrics, steady drumming, hardy bass work, self importance, christianity, hypocrisy. What's not to like?
 
DotCommunist said:
It's been years since I played it...i'll dig it out when I get home
I strongly advise against it, but if you insist, have some good 1987 albums handy to relieve the inevitable pain and embarrassment.

These will do:

Locust Abortion Technician - Butthole Surfers
Tallulah - The Go-Betweens
Warehouse Songs and Stories - Hüsker Dü
Sister - Sonic Youth
The Young Gods - The Young Gods
Songs About Fucking - Big Black
Pleased to Meet Me - The Replacements
 
copliker said:
I strongly advise against it, but if you insist, have some good 1987 albums handy to relieve the inevitable pain and embarrassment.

These will do:

Locust Abortion Technician - Butthole Surfers
Tallulah - The Go-Betweens
Warehouse Songs and Stories - Hüsker Dü
Sister - Sonic Youth
The Young Gods - The Young Gods
Songs About Fucking - Big Black
Pleased to Meet Me - The Replacements

You are me,.
 
copliker said:
I strongly advise against it, but if you insist, have some good 1987 albums handy to relieve the inevitable pain and embarrassment.

These will do:

Locust Abortion Technician - Butthole Surfers
Tallulah - The Go-Betweens
Warehouse Songs and Stories - Hüsker Dü
Sister - Sonic Youth
The Young Gods - The Young Gods
Songs About Fucking - Big Black
Pleased to Meet Me - The Replacements

That's my afternoon sorted. Retreat into youth. All great records.
 
Idaho said:
Some songs on Joshua Tree are ok. I think it was the turning point for U2. From then on it was bollocks all the way. Whereas Unforgettable Fire was great.


I'd largely agree with this except I didn't buy The Joshua Tree precisely because I thought The Unforgettable Fire was rubbish too.
 
Think I bought that album but found it so awful that I don't think I have ever managed to listen to it all the way through yet. Not that I've tried for a while now.
 
ouchmonkey said:
I'd largely agree with this except I didn't buy The Joshua Tree precisely because I thought The Unforgettable Fire was rubbish too.
Eh? You've lost me. Or did I miss something?
 
bluestreak said:
The only way anyone could possibly think The Joshua Tree wasn't overblown pompous unimaginative shite is someone who hasn't heard good music.
U2 are overblown and pompous, and I think from Joshua Tree onward they were fairly unimaginative. However the overblown and pompous worked before they were hugely successful. Bono's ego didn't seem that relevant. But once they became multi-squillionaires his intolerableness (heh - sounds like a title) became even more inescapable.

One Tree Hill and Mothers of the Dissapeared are good songs from JT.
 
Idaho said:
Eh? You've lost me. Or did I miss something?

It's not that complicated.

I'd agree that : Some songs on Joshua Tree are ok.
: I think it was the turning point for U2.

I would not agree that the Unforgettable Fire was great.

It was rubbish.
So I expected Joshua Tree to be rubbish as well.
In retrospect it's possibly the better of the two but I don't care....
'cos I wouldn't bother listening to either.
 
ouchmonkey said:
It's not that complicated.

I'd agree that : Some songs on Joshua Tree are ok.
: I think it was the turning point for U2.

I would not agree that the Unforgettable Fire was great.

It was rubbish.
So I expected Joshua Tree to be rubbish as well.
In retrospect it's possibly the better of the two but I don't care....
'cos I wouldn't bother listening to either.
It's not complicated, it's just illogical.

You think some songs on the Joshua Tree are ok, and that the unforgettable fire is better than the Joshua Tree. But that the Unforgettable Fire was rubbish.

If the Joshua Tree is partially ok, and the Unforgettable Fire is better than partially ok, how can it be rubbish?
 
butchersapron said:
That's my afternoon sorted. Retreat into youth. All great records.
Just occurred to me. Each band I mentioned has a bloody enormous body of outstanding work. The collective cost of recording it all probably wouldn't cover the airfare for Bono's hat.
 
Idaho said:
It's not complicated, it's just illogical.

You think some songs on the Joshua Tree are ok, and that the unforgettable fire is better than the Joshua Tree. But that the Unforgettable Fire was rubbish.

If the Joshua Tree is partially ok, and the Unforgettable Fire is better than partially ok, how can it be rubbish?


no.
you seem to have inserted the illogical part that would explain your confusion.
I do not think the Unforgettable Fire was better than the Joshua Tree.
I bought it when it came out. I thought it was rubbish then and I still do.
following on from this I expected their next album - The Joshua Tree - to also be cack.
In retrospect I might admit there are better songs on it than on Unforgettable Fire.
It's a bit academic as I had already overcome my short phase of liking U2 and
had realised what an annoying load of old rubbish it was, in stark contrast to the world at large who made them the biggest band on the planet.
The great eejits
 
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