I am going to vote today . . . . are you?
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untethered
For industry & decency
I'd see it in a similar way to being a lodger in a family home. You pay your rent. You get some rights (accommodation, food). But you shouldn't presume to change or influence the way the household is run.
The cheek of it!
cockneyrebel
New Member
What about the examples I gave?
untethered
For industry & decency
I think I've made it quite clear that only citizens of a country should be allowed to vote in that country's elections.
Well yes. It's quite usual to do so.
Why not?
I can see where this is going.
There's a fundamental difference in my mind between moving around within your country (renouncing rights in one place and gaining them in another) and visiting a country and expecting to have voting rights there as well as at home.
untethered
For industry & decency
Well it would seem that almost no matter what happens today, tomorrow we'll still have a sexual beast as mayor.
At least there are a few decent alternatives but sadly not one with a good chance of winning.
Thora
Differently Ethical
Lol, a sexual beast?
harpo
Listening to Radio Jackie
That analagy doesn't work. The Government is the people, and vice versa.
untethered
For industry & decency
Ah, but which people?
The citizenry, that's who.
If it's all the same I don't want arbitrary foreigners turning up here trying to run the show, and I wouldn't presume to do the same to them no matter how much a hash they're making of it themselves.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
The sad thing is that old Boris is actually being taken seriously. The man is a fool with no qualifications to clean toilets nevermind be mayor of London.
untethered
For industry & decency
They're not local people, they're visitors or guests.
'Local' means of a place, not just temporarily in a place.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Point<-------------------->Untethered.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
But I'm temporarily in London! I plan to move back to Bristol, maybe even before the next mayor's term is over. What business of mine is it to force this decision on the people who will live here after I leave?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
"Countries" are composed of the people who live and participate in them. Saying that certain of those people shouldn't be able to have an influence on how they work - but are quite happily allowed to live there just like the rest - is merely deliberate disenfranchisement.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Does any of the shit taste any better than the other shit?
Does eating result in you getting shit for the next course too, or will you actually just get shit whether you pick one particular flavour of shit or not?
innit
c'mon, little life giver
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
These are the right questions. Unpalatable though they may be...
cockneyrebel
New Member
But what you're saying doesn't make sense. If someone moves to another borough or moves from Cardiff to London they are no different than someone who moves from say Normandy to London.
Unless you want to say that just because you're born somewhere you then have an automatic bond with other people of that nationality which is a crock of shit. For instance what have I got in common with Alan Sugar or the Queen? Not a lot.
If someone lives somewhere then they have interest in how they are governed and how things are run, so therefore they should be able to vote.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Untethered, you're a nasty little nationalist when it comes to this. No matter where I am from, I have an interest in the governance of the place I am living at the time I am living there. Just because someone is from France and is moving back to France in 2 years doesn't mean they don't have an interest in how the place they're living in is run until they go.
The only time there should be an exception to this is if a reciprocal agreement doesn't exist in their country - e.g. as a brit I can't register to vote (or indeed vote at all) in another country, any citizen of that country doesn't get the right to vote here unless that person has applied for permanent residency in the UK.
The only time there should be an exception to this is if a reciprocal agreement doesn't exist in their country - e.g. as a brit I can't register to vote (or indeed vote at all) in another country, any citizen of that country doesn't get the right to vote here unless that person has applied for permanent residency in the UK.
Badger Kitten
oof
There are now two NON-PUBLIC polls where you
can indicate
A) Your first choice vote for Mayor - HERE
B) Your second choice vote for Mayor - HERE
Yes - it's ALL ANONYMOUS. Please go and indicate your vote.So we can have a snap shot of what flavour U75's politics are today and how many people backed Boris/Ken/Brian/Sian/a loon
Ta.
can indicate
A) Your first choice vote for Mayor - HERE
B) Your second choice vote for Mayor - HERE
Yes - it's ALL ANONYMOUS. Please go and indicate your vote.So we can have a snap shot of what flavour U75's politics are today and how many people backed Boris/Ken/Brian/Sian/a loon
Ta.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Although I voted in your polls, I am not sure that they do indicate the "flavour" of the Urbanite political stance, since a lot of people were voting tactically! 
Badger Kitten
oof
True, I was on a ''my God, Boris must be stopped'' thing.
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