I am going to vote today . . . . are you?

[dynamicbaddog]

I was'nt going to bother but because I've been hearing how close it's going to be between Ken and Boris I voted in the end(Ken as a second choice). It took me forever to decide who to vote for, I was standing in that polling booth dithering over the ballot papers for ages

 

[untethered]

if she lives here why shouldn't she get a vote?

Because she's not British.

 

[JTG]

she lives here, uses local services, possibly has a job here and pays taxes - why shouldn't she have a vote?

 

[untethered]

she lives here, uses local services, possibly has a job here and pays taxes - why shouldn't she have a vote?

Not British.

 

[JTG]

Thanks, I didn't think you had an argument but just thought I'd check

 

[untethered]

Thanks, I didn't think you had an argument but just thought I'd check

Of course I've got an argument, but it boils down to "not British".

 

[JTG]

splendid

 

[soulman]

Where's the: I don't give a flying fuck what happens in London option?

 

[Fez909]

Of course I've got an argument, but it boils down to "not British".

So if she answered a few questions, based on some abitrary standard of 'Britishness', got her bit of paper; then you wouldn't mind her voting?

 

[untethered]

splendid

Isn't it just?

There should be a crack-down on non-Britishness. We need to sort this out once and for all.

 

[Crispy]

That's not an argument, that's a petulant baseless retort

 

[untethered]

So if she answered a few questions, based on some abitrary standard of 'Britishness', got her bit of paper; then you wouldn't mind her voting?

We need to have a credible process for granting foreigners citizenship.

British people should be entitled to vote in British elections and non-British people not.

 

[untethered]

That's not an argument, that's a petulant baseless retort

I'd go more for "considered and measured" than "petulant", but as you like it.

 

[untethered]

It's worth pointing out that I wouldn't dream of voting in a foreign country even if I were entitled.

It wouldn't be my place.

 

[danny la rouge]

Well that could well be the reason why you are not voting today..

But I should be ashamed.

 

[Fez909]

We need to have a credible process for granting foreigners citizenship.

British people should be entitled to vote in British elections and non-British people not.

So even with the current, presumably flawed in your eyes, citizenship tests and whatnot; you'd still be OK if she had the bit of paper, but you aren't OK because she hasn't?

 

[JTG]

you should be ya wrong un

 

[untethered]

So even with the current, presumably flawed in your eyes, citizenship tests and whatnot; you'd still be OK if she had the bit of paper, but you aren't OK because she hasn't?

Whatever the failings of the current nationality/citizenship system, I'd go so far as to say that at least someone applying for and getting citizenship is making some kind of ongoing commitment to the country.

Fly-by-night foreign voters are a different matter entirely.

 

[cockneyrebel]

So untethered if I move to a different borough should I not get a vote in the council elections on the basis that I'm not from there and might move away again?

 

[untethered]

So untethered if I move to a different borough should I not get a vote in the council elections on the basis that I'm not from there and might move away again?

If you move to a new borough you should notify the council so you're on the electoral register in the right place.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It's worth pointing out that I wouldn't dream of voting in a foreign country even if I were entitled.

It wouldn't be my place.

If I pay taxes above and perhaps beyond that of a native, use local public services and have an interest in the society enough to care about what happens to it - let alone have to put up with all the damn election spam - I would expect to have a vote, at the very least in local elections. In fact it was one of the things that annoyed me when I was an expat.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Yep, just been. Unpleasant scene in the paperwork queue involving two 'old dears' making loud comments about how there 'aren't many English in 'ere'. Relics from when my area was a NF stronghold, I suppose.

Isn't it just?

There should be a crack-down on non-Britishness. We need to sort this out once and for all.

Untethered isn't a couple of old ladies, is s/he?

Have voted, was primarily voted by the desire to keep Boris out. Not sure if I would have voted had it seemed less of a close call, as I agree not voting is as valid an action as voting. Last general election I wrote a small paragraph on why we should have PR - like anyone will have paid any attention to that.

Did however get worried that my hand/brain would hiccup and I'd end up crossing someone I really didn't want. It's a variation of my meeting fear, where I irrationally worry that I'll introduce myself with the wrong name and job

 

[untethered]

If I pay taxes above and perhaps beyond that of a native, use local public services and have an interest in the society enough to care about what happens to it - let alone have to put up with all the d- election spam - I would expect to have a vote, at the very least in local elections. In fact it was one of the things that annoyed me when I was an expat.

It's still not your country.

Why do you presume you have the right to tell other countries how to manage themselves?

 

[Crispy]

It's still not your country.

Why do you presume you have the right to tell other countries how to manage themselves?

Because you live there at the time.

 

[Thora]

It's still not your country.

Why do you presume you have the right to tell other countries how to manage themselves?

Cos if you live there, you're the one being managed

 

[cockneyrebel]

If you move to a new borough you should notify the council so you're on the electoral register in the right place.

If people can vote it means they have registered.

So here are the questions:

1) If someone has come from another country and has registered to vote should they be allowed to vote in elections?

2) If I move to another borough and register to vote should I be allowed to vote in the council election?

3) If someone moved from Cardiff from London and registers to vote should they be able to vote in the GLA/London mayor elections?

 

[danny la rouge]

you should be ya wrong un

So sorry.

 

[rich!]

Have voted, was primarily voted by the desire to keep Boris.

So you've got Boris at the moment, have you? Does himself know?

 

[girasol]

We went to vote at 7 and it was busy - even a bit of queuing going on

 

[Agent Sparrow]

So you've got Boris at the moment, have you? Does himself know?

Shit!

Keep Boris OUT!

See, this wasn't perhaps such an irrational fear after all!

Did however get worried that my hand/brain would hiccup and I'd end up crossing someone I really didn't want.