Hypocrites at it again
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kained&able
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He played the first two games for luton this year and went on LOAN to sheffield united. You never owned him.
Theres two seperate transfers here.
Canceling of loan Sheffield united back to luton.(which your allowed to say he can't play against us, probabley)
(theres an emergency loan luton-> charlton in there as well which is irelevent)
Permenent transfer Luton -> charlton. which has nothing to do with you.
NOT
Permenent transfer Shefiield united -> charlton
dave
Theres two seperate transfers here.
Canceling of loan Sheffield united back to luton.(which your allowed to say he can't play against us, probabley)
(theres an emergency loan luton-> charlton in there as well which is irelevent)
Permenent transfer Luton -> charlton. which has nothing to do with you.
NOT
Permenent transfer Shefiield united -> charlton
dave
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
I would love it, love it if shit kicked off because of this thread (and somehow West Ham were forced to pay out as well 
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CyberRose
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According to their statement, Charlton negotiated with Sheffield United because the player was registered with us, not Luton, no matter who owned him
He was our player until the end of the season, just like when Tevez was at West Ham. The major difference being West Ham were not the ones who decided when or where Tevez could leave to, hence them being guilty of rule breaking. Sheff Utd and Luton appear to have played by the rules, hence Sheff Utd being the ones deciding when and where Spring could go to while he was a Sheff Utd registered player
(Nice try tho)
kained&able
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I would love it but i'm fairly sure if anyones going to get done it will be charlton and possibly luton just for giggles
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dave
(((((luton town))))))))
dave
tommers
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kained&able
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Might be thier position but i reckon its wrong. Sheffield united have no right to say mathew spring can go anywhere other then back to luton.
Did they negotiate the transfer fee as well?
dave
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CyberRose
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But the whole problem with Tevezgate is that West Ham had no right to say when/where he could go! If Sheff Utd entered into a deal with Luton to have Spring for one season, and Luton had built into the contract that they would retain the right to sell Spring as and when they liked, we would have done exactly what West Ham did! Kia Joorbicooba was the one that decided if and when Tevez should be sold, and that's what West Ham got fucked over and are still trying to cover up!
Seems like Sheff Utd and Luton have been completely honourable in this deal...
Lucan Vortex
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What a load of fucking old cock. So if Pompy decide to sell Pennent on, seeing as he's on-loan there then Liverpool have no say about it?
You don't half reach for some straws
kained&able
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ahem i think you'll find that kia paid us 2million to release tevez's registration early b4 he signed for man united.
But anyway this isn't about tevez. No deflecting allowed.
YOU HAD INFLUENCE OVER CHARLTON'S TEAM SELECTION AND ARE A THIRD PARTY.
The way the rule is phrased;
Suggests that its Charlton who should be afarid though. As they entered the contract & its thier clubs policies in mtaches thats being effected.
Which is a pity. I'm still hoping for a conspiricy charge though for you lot.(if it doesn't exist it can be made up)
dave
But anyway this isn't about tevez. No deflecting allowed.
YOU HAD INFLUENCE OVER CHARLTON'S TEAM SELECTION AND ARE A THIRD PARTY.
The way the rule is phrased;
Suggests that its Charlton who should be afarid though. As they entered the contract & its thier clubs policies in mtaches thats being effected.
Which is a pity. I'm still hoping for a conspiricy charge though for you lot.(if it doesn't exist it can be made up)
dave
CyberRose
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If Pennant is on loan at Portsmouth then obviously they can't sell him can they!What a load of fucking old cock. So if Pompy decide to sell Pennent on, seeing as he's on-loan there then Liverpool have no say about it?
You don't have reach for some straws
However, if Liverpool want to sell him, and assuming he is on a season long loan (which I think, unlike shorter loans, the parent club cannot terminate), then Liverpool would need the permission of Portsmouth to sell him and also whoever is buying him would need to transfer Pennant's registration to themselves from Portsmouth
CyberRose
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Yes but that's irrelevant as the contract stated he could move Tevez on whenever he wanted
Of course it's about Tevez! Why are the only people making an issue out of this West Ham fans?!
But it is allowed in the Championship to have clauses in contracts saying players cannot play against the club they've bought them off. I see no difference between us or Luton making this a clause seeing as we would both have to agree to let Spring go to Luton
I believe that is a Premier League rule, not an FA rule. Had West Ham not lied and cheated it would be a rule that still applied to us
If anybody did anything wrong then yes, it would be Charlton, not Luton or Sheff Utd. But I think Fat Cunt Samuel's article pretty much guarantees it is all piss flying in the wind...
Lucan Vortex
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No, they'd just recall him as is done all the time when an injury arises at <insert loaning club here>.
If, as you say, the loaning club cannot terminate a season long loan (and I very, very much doubt this to be the case) then it's still ridiculous to think that the loanee club - Sheff U in this case - should be able to demand any clauses inexchange for termination of said loan.
That'd make you even more insidious than the double bluffs that Duxberry and Kia pulled.
kained&able
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NO!
Liverpool would have to negioate the release of his registration with pompey.
Or pompey decide to cancel his loan.
Liverpool would have to negioate his sale with new club.
Liverpool would have to transfer his registration to new club.
Pompey and new club don't speak at any point ever.
Parent clubs can terminate a season long loan as long as there is a recall clause in the contact. Can be either way. Clubs are quite often allowed to get out of season long loans if the player gets injured as well. Not sure if thats always allowed or can be a condition though.
dave
Liverpool would have to negioate the release of his registration with pompey.
Or pompey decide to cancel his loan.
Liverpool would have to negioate his sale with new club.
Liverpool would have to transfer his registration to new club.
Pompey and new club don't speak at any point ever.
Parent clubs can terminate a season long loan as long as there is a recall clause in the contact. Can be either way. Clubs are quite often allowed to get out of season long loans if the player gets injured as well. Not sure if thats always allowed or can be a condition though.
dave
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surely if the player is registered to you that makes you a first party rather than a third party?
CyberRose
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I think it has more to do with player registration limits than on who actually owns the player. A player can only be registered so many times in a season and on specific dates. So it's not necessarily out of this world that in order to transfer Spring to Charlton there might have been two negotiations - one over the economic rights to the player, and the second over the registration of the player
See above and the many Tevez related threads proving I know what I'm talking about
tommers
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It's great isn't it?
Rosie just said the Tevez threads prove he knows what he's going on about!
It's like we've never been away.
CyberRose
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18 months! 18 MONTHS! That is how long I was ridiculed by you guys before it was eventually proved in court under sworn testimonies that I had been right all along and it was in fact all you West Ham supporters that didn't have a clue about it!It's great isn't it?
Rosie just said the Tevez threads prove he knows what he's going on about!
It's like we've never been away.
CyberRose
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It's just a hurtful ploy to keep me from posting in the West Ham forum
I hope the Newcastle thread kicks your ass this season, I really do!
tommers
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CyberRose
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Erm don't you mean past? And don't ALL judges make, you know, judgements based on the evidence put before them?
Or until a mad old man decided that he could tell he future, for he was all-seeing.
kained&able
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Your not even close o vidicated yet about tevezgate mr rose.
If we get more then tickled by the next hearing(s) then and only then do i conceed and if we appeal then i still won't.
dave
If we get more then tickled by the next hearing(s) then and only then do i conceed and if we appeal then i still won't.
dave
CyberRose
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http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1533768,00.htmlSheffield United said:
I think we should sue Samuels for libel, and as part of the pay out force the newspaper to write an apology to us (written by Samuel of course)
CyberRose
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What?! Yes I am! The court ruled in our favour! It's already been decided that we won. All there is to discuss is how much compo we're owed. For all I know or care we might get nothing, but that does not alter the fact the court ruled in our favour and that West Ham cheated!
kained&able
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i'm downloading stuff so cant google but NO.
Kangeroo court doesn't count. FA/EPL/UEFA/FIFA find us guility of anything other then the first offence(which we are very sorry for) and then I may decide you might have had a point.
dave
Kangeroo court doesn't count. FA/EPL/UEFA/FIFA find us guility of anything other then the first offence(which we are very sorry for) and then I may decide you might have had a point.
dave
CyberRose
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Lol! So a British court of law is a "kangeroo court", but a tribunal set up by a footballing authority somehow has a greater prestige!?
Anyway, the Premier League are looking into this and considering their whole motivation is to get themselves off the hook it won't be to long before a "real" court also shows you cheated as well!
