Human Rights Council; Israel 'permanent abuser'

[warren]

Haha, nice one. The Zionist terror groups wandering around murdering people had nothing to do with it, I suppose?

It was the Irgun that did most of the murdering but even the Deir Yassim massacre is disputed by their members as legitimate targets. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing for sure what happened.

There were also Arab groups going around murdering Jews. It was tit-for-tat violence - very nasty stuff and both sides probably committed war crimes.

Oh, yeah, Israel's a haven of peace and happiness Whichever way you twist your Goebelsian one-eyed view of history all you're saying is 'might is right'. The injustices that approach has already created will not go away too soon

Well actually go there and see for yourself. It is not a haven for peace and happiness but its not a bad place to live.

:edited for minor spelling mistake.

 

[Peet]

Are there any facts in the quote that Fruitloop posted up that you'd care to dispute then, Peet?

Not especially but I would observe that chomsky has passed from historian to activist therefore anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[Fruitloop]

This is just a simple ad hominem surely?

 

[Peet]

Yes. I think the man is a scumbag.

 

[bendeus]

Not especially but I would observe that chomsky has passed from historian to activist therefore anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

So, about the facts that Fruitloop posted up as quoted by Chomsky; they're true, aren't they, whether you like it or not. What are your thoughts regarding the proportion of the world's countries voting to censure Israel, and the fact that it's only the US that ever steps in to protect its proxy.

Do you feel that the 150 or so countries are inherently anti-Semitic, or could there be other reasons for their voting the way they did?

 

[Peet]

So, about the facts that Fruitloop posted up as quoted by Chomsky; they're true, aren't they, whether you like it or not.

Havent bothered to fact check it but lets assume it is true.

What are your thoughts regarding the proportion of the world's countries voting to censure Israel, and the fact that it's only the US that ever steps in to protect its proxy.

Well that entirely depends on which countries and their status as liberal democracies and their human rights records. If the world is busy busting Israels ass it distracts from their own failings no? and as for the US stepping in to prevent it... Why shouldn't they? Looking at the human rights abusers in the middle east, Israel is the least of the worlds troubles.


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Do you feel that the 150 or so countries are inherently anti-Semitic, or could there be other reasons for their voting the way they did?[/QUOTE]

Some countries are inherently antisemitic. But that is not the key factor. It's more to do with the fundamentally corrupt UN. The rulings of any transnational that uts Mugabe on a human rights body and gives a voice to some of the most repugnant regimes on earth and then has the gaul to criticize the only liberal democracy in the middle east (while ignoring Iran and not even enforcing its own resolutiosn with regard to Iraq and then slamming a nation that does it for it)... urgh I could go on. It's a hgypocritical toothless talking shop and I'm not suprised the democracies of the world only ever use it when it suits them.

 

[bendeus]

Some countries are inherently antisemitic. But that is not the key factor. It's more to do with the fundamentally corrupt UN. The rulings of any transnational that uts Mugabe on a human rights body and gives a voice to some of the most repugnant regimes on earth and then has the gaul to criticize the only liberal democracy in the middle east (while ignoring Iran and not even enforcing its own resolutiosn with regard to Iraq and then slamming a nation that does it for it)... urgh I could go on. It's a hgypocritical toothless talking shop and I'm not suprised the democracies of the world only ever use it when it suits them.

So essentially you're saying that the entire world, and the UN, are wrong, and that Israel and the US are right. How does it feel to fit in line with 0.1% of global opinion?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think this is more a statement about the poor state of the UN HRC than Israel where Arab citizens have equal rights before the law, can vote, sit in Parliment, protected by free speech and can make seditious speechs calling for the destruction of Israel.

Then there are states like Sudan, China, Zimbabwee, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Burma, Belarus who are almost being ignored.

You've missed one very slight point, but one that makes a world of difference.

Out of the eight countries you name, 75% of them have some form of ongoing sanctions regime being enacted against them.

Hardly "almost being ignored", you doughnut.

 

[Spion]

Well actually go there and see for yourself. It is not a haven for peace and happiness but its not a bad place to live.

I've spent 9 months of my life there, thanks, so I've seen it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

good points. Your brains are wasted in "The Moono & Co" Forum, dominated by facile, extremist pricks.
I wish you well friend.

His and your brains are wasted FULL STOP.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If Noam Chomsky told me the Pope was catholic I'd be phoning the vatican to check.

A sentence which says so much more about you than you probably wished it to.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not especially but I would observe that chomsky has passed from historian to activist therefore anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Is it impossible (or even particularly difficult) to be knowledgable in two fields, then?

Oh, and he's one of the world's foremost experts on linguistics, too. Bad Chomsky!

 

[Peet]

So essentially you're saying that the entire world, and the UN, are wrong, and that Israel and the US are right. How does it feel to fit in line with 0.1% of global opinion?

Given that the masses seem to think Big Brother is watchable, It reassures me somewhat that my opinions are in the minority.

 

[moono]

warren;

Moono is a source of amusement more than anything. Although I at least understand where he is coming from as he is a Muslim (cue allegations of racism).

Being called 'a source of amusement' by somebody whose general demeanor appears shit-scared is a compliment, I think.

And I'm not a muslim. I'm a Jedi. It says so on my census form.

 

[moono]

The House halted U.S. funds for the U.N. Human Rights Council. Lawmakers were angered by the council's recent move to end inquiries of Cuba and Belarus, both accused of human rights abuses, while singling out Israel for continued investigation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070622/pl_nm/usa_congress_aid_dc

Lol. As if the Human Rights Council hadn't already put human rights before America's bribes.

 

[warren]

You've missed one very slight point, but one that makes a world of difference.

Out of the eight countries you name, 75% of them have some form of ongoing sanctions regime being enacted against them.

Hardly "almost being ignored", you doughnut.

It is quite clear from my post that my point was aimed at the HRC and not the the entire UN.

 

[tangentlama]

It is quite clear from my post that my point was aimed at the HRC and not the the entire UN.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh shit, it's Izzy Jesus!

 

[nino_savatte]

If Noam Chomsky told me the Pope was catholic I'd be phoning the vatican to check.

What if Dershowitz told you? I'll bet you'd believe him.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It is quite clear from my post that my point was aimed at the HRC and not the the entire UN.

Think about it, enlightenment may come to you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What if Dershowitz told you? I'll bet you'd believe him.

Would Dershowitz be telling him this during or after Peet had grovelled at his feet and licked his boots?

 

[nino_savatte]

Would Dershowitz be telling him this during or after Peet had grovelled at his feet and licked his boots?

During and after, I reckon. The man is a veritable god in the eyes of Peet (& R18).

 

[tangentlama]

What if Dershowitz told you? I'll bet you'd believe him.

Based on what I've read lately on the various politics fora here, if Dershy tells us academic boycotts are bad, and if against Jewish/Israeli academics, these have a basis in 'antisemitism', then I'd ask him why did he persecute Jewish scholar Norman Finkelstein, and why has he said nothing at Stephen Plaut's hounding of Israeli academics? does it then cease to be 'antisemitic' when it's Jew v. Jew, or Israeli Jew v. Israeli Jew, in which case, if that's the case, then he won't object to Panda, myself, and several other Jewdasses license to hound him back into that so-called liberal hole he crawled from, some 20 years ago, before he became an hysterical, irrational, illogical, and player of dirty political games. Quid pro quo, and all that. In fact, if you're reading this now, stop you boycott-breakers! Boycott all Jewish/Israeli academics NOW! PhD, GSCE, who cares!

The focus on Israel's Administration & Military conduct right now is about ethics, politics, human and civil rights, and not about religion.

 

[nino_savatte]

Based on what I've read lately on the various politics fora here, if Dershy tells us academic boycotts are bad, and if against Jewish/Israeli academics, these have a basis in 'antisemitism', then I'd ask him why did he persecute Jewish scholar Norman Finkelstein, and why has he said nothing at Stephen Plaut's hounding of Israeli academics? does it then cease to be 'antisemitic' when it's Jew v. Jew, or Israeli Jew v. Israeli Jew, in which case, if that's the case, then he won't object to Panda, myself, and several other Jewdasses license to hound him back into that so-called liberal hole he crawled from, some 20 years ago, before he became an hysterical, irrational, illogical, and player of dirty political games. Quid pro quo, and all that. In fact, if you're reading this now, stop you boycott-breakers! Boycott all Jewish/Israeli academics NOW! PhD, GSCE, who cares!

This is about ethics, politics, human and civil rights, and not about religion.

Don't forget Chomsky. Didn't Dersho describe Chomsky as a "self-hating Jew"?

 

[Pete the Greek]

Don't forget Chomsky. Didn't Dersho describe Chomsky as a "self-hating Jew"?

I bet you just luuurrve Chomsky.

Lame.

 

[nino_savatte]

Lame.

...or in your case, flaccid.

Why don't you go back and finish your dance with baldwin? You two are quite obviously made for each other.

Tosser.

 

[Pete the Greek]

...or in your case, flaccid.

Why don't you go back and finish your dance with baldwin? You two are quite obviously made for each other.

Tosser.

You tedious, boring, predictable cunt.

Cunt off cunt features.

You stupid cunt.

 

[nino_savatte]

You tedious, boring, predictable cunt.

Cunt off cunt features.

You stupid cunt.

Is this all you have, you stalking trolling fuckwit?

No one could ever accuse you of "insightful analysis" could they? You're as thick as pigshit and twice as ignorant.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Is this all you have, you stalking trolling fuckwit?

No one could ever accuse you of "insightful analysis" could they? You're as thick as pigshit and twice as ignorant.

You're still a cunt thought. Argue out of that. bet you can't. Cunt.

 

[nino_savatte]

You're still a cunt thought. Argue out of that. bet you can't. Cunt.

What's the matter, fucktard, isn't balders giving you what you want?

Twat.