Huge US protest against Iraq war

[fela fan]

It's impossible to count the number of levels on which you're wrong here - as with Vietnam, it has been FAR from one-way carnage.

Would an abacus help?

Meanwhile i thought wars were fought between soldiers and armed forces of two nations or more. Can you confirm that iraqi armed forces are killing american armed forces? American soldiers vs iraqi soldiers?

 

[kyser_soze]

Is there some kind of news blackout in Thailand which prevents you from seeing that the seven flavours of Iraqi insurgent are waging an extremely effective war against each other, Iraqi civilians and the USUK forces occupying the country? Unless of course you have a different idea of what 'war' means...

 

[fela fan]

Is there some kind of news blackout in Thailand which prevents you from seeing that the seven flavours of Iraqi insurgent are waging an extremely effective war against each other, Iraqi civilians and the USUK forces occupying the country? Unless of course you have a different idea of what 'war' means...

Nah. I just never thought three years ago it was a war as portrayed. The US rampaged in and within a few days iraqi soldiers were no longer fighting back, even if they ever offered more than token fighting back.

Back to the pedantry though, surely insurgents are not war combatants? I really don't think it's a war that's going on, unless you wish to call it a civil war. But then where do the US come into the picture? They are occupying forces as you say.

It's no more a war between nations than israel palestine. Are wars fought between civilians?

 

[kyser_soze]

Fela, drop the semantics, it's a war between about a dozen different sides, all of whom are united in one thing - the quest for power.

And anyone who picks up a block of stone and throws it at someone else is a combatant - someone who is fighting is not a civilian.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

surely insurgents are not war combatants?

No you're right, the insurgents are there to play football. Tit

 

[audiotech]

They weren't on the same massive scale as the UK's though, were they?

The one in 2003 was the biggest public rally in British history.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,,896475,00.html

Mr Blair speaking in Glasgow, said that he "respected and understood" people's desire to march.

Of course he did.

"I ask the marchers to understand this: I do not seek unpopularity as a badge of honour," he said. "But sometimes it is the price of leadership and the cost of conviction."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,,896475,00.html

Blair, the messianic, popinjay was right there.

 

[exosculate]

Blair, the messianic, popinjay was right there.

I thought she was meeting with the Queen, has she already met Blair?

 

[fela fan]

Fela, drop the semantics, it's a war between about a dozen different sides, all of whom are united in one thing - the quest for power.

And anyone who picks up a block of stone and throws it at someone else is a combatant - someone who is fighting is not a civilian.

Look mate, i did say i was involving myself in pedantry...

 

[fela fan]

No you're right, the insurgents are there to play football. Tit

Lesson for the lost man:

Footballers play football
Soldiers fight wars
Insurgents are involved in insurgencies
And tits are good.

 

[Yossarian]

So if the insurgency succeeds in forcing a US withdrawal from Iraq, does it become a war retroactively?

 

[fela fan]

So if the insurgency succeeds in forcing a US withdrawal from Iraq, does it become a war retroactively?

When the americans went into iraq i don't think it was a war, just a massacre. It's become a sort of civil war since, with the occupying forces playing more of a police role than soldier role.