Huge fire at Notre Dame cathedral, Paris

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by a_chap, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    Anyway thanks for elucidating, I will leave you to your fire.
     
  2. Humberto

    Humberto forsooth

    You can't not feel something is lost surely? I know most people are agreeing, but they are special, ridiculously good buildings. If you like that sort of thing. :hmm:
     
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  3. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    Rik disagrees though a8b9156dfadbf0cffa665c8d3fe641e3.jpg
     
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  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    To be clear, I am saddened by this fire. ND is staggeringly beautiful. Truly awesome in the manner intended, and representing the loving work of generations of people. As a 'symbol of Paris' or whatever, though. No that's not what saddens me about potentially losing a building like this.
     
  5. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Fishing in the River of Life....

    In fairness, during the Thirty Years War, the profusion of mercenaries paid by both Catholic and Protestant sides to destroy one another’s places of worship was a major factor.
     
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  6. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    The deputy mayor of the fire says the fire started in the roof, and hinted that it was caused by restoration workers ("I don't know but there was work going on there to bring down statues last week). He was talking to CBS a couple of minutes ago.
     
  7. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

  8. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    Maybe one of the workers wages were a few days late
     
  9. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    for not agreeing with your adolescent bullshit? OK
     
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  10. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  11. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    Apart from Westminster Hall the Houses of Parliament are mostly a mid-Victorian. A neo-gothic replacement of the predecessor that was burnt to the ground .
     
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  12. circleline

    circleline Well-Known Member

    Same with the fire at the Venice Opera House, I believe; caused by workmen during restoration works.
     
  13. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    Peckham Theseus.
     
  14. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    ok so maybe that was a bad choice of buildings

    did not want to chose saint pauls as thats also a church and has been bombed before
     
  15. campanula

    campanula plant a seed

    I do agree that it is difficult to separate the social, cultural and political mapping onto wood, stone and steel, and for me, I hugely resent the downgrading of 'craft' over 'art'...along with matters of ownership and patronage. I have only been in the Notre Dame once before (on a school trip) but remember being profoundly moved by the sheer complexity of decoration. My dad was a skilled tradesperson and I also, do a lot of handworking in wood, fibre and cloth...and absolutely attest to the pride in excellence...but I also see that it is difficult to ignore the ultimate function of a building/object.
     
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  16. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

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  17. ice-is-forming

    ice-is-forming Well-Known Member

    Godamit! Next venice will sink before o get there :(
     
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  18. Spymaster

    Spymaster Cockney Wanker

    Your posts on here have been more than a bit odd, tbf. Your apparent inability to appreciate the significance of ND beyond its religious function is just plain weird.
     
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  19. donkyboy

    donkyboy Crazy cat man

    did the hunch back of notre dame exist?
     
  20. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    Have to say I'm saddened by the destruction of such a beautiful, old building. It was the pinnacle of engineering, craftsmanship and beauty in it's time and for hundreds of years. I dont even think of the use of the building and I am a Catholic. My first thoughts were of a magnificent old building destroyed. A hand built beautiful building that has stood through wars, revolutions and was made famous by Napoleon and Viktor Hugo. I'm sad....not because of religion....but because it's gone.
     
  21. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    No.
     
  22. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Fishing in the River of Life....

    The backdraft of Notre Dame did earlier.
     
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  23. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    Just had a chat with one of my best friends whose cycled down to do his Tintin boy reporter schtick: people praying; people getting beaten up for blaming "the Muslims"; but also people there for the spectacle.

    The boy reporter has degrees in political science and engineering and a life long obsession with Parisian urban infrastructure. Apparently there are several subterranean levels to the Cathedral with lots of wood floors and walls. This led to an apocalyptic assesment that the integrity of the cathedral end of the Island itself including Metro and RER lines could be at risk.
     
  24. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

     
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  25. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    Not sure Victor Hugo was aware though. He made it all up i reckon, the dirty novelist
     
  26. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
     
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  27. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

  28. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    There are loads of UNESCO sites. The waterfront in Liverpool and some stuff in Alcalá de Henares up the road from me are too. It's not surprising Notre Dame would be.
     
  29. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    Old St Paul's was gutted in the fire of London but most of the stonework survived. Lots of Londoners wanted it restored but Wren and his contractors wangled its demolition and replacement with the current incarnation. The height of the spire of the old cathedral, which collapsed long before the fire was 150 meters. The Post Office Tower (177 meters) built in the 1960s was the first London building to exceed that.
     
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  30. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Less of a tragedy than the Glasgow School of Art fire. There's not really a shortage of gothic cathedrals around.

    Like the GSA I expect it will be pretty well documented and the destroyed parts will be reconstructed.
     
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