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HTC Touch HD phone: 480 x 800 pixels fullscreen!

No idea, sometimes it looks like some people will like anything they think can be used to knock the iPhone.

Personally I've never had any problems with Windows Mobile (although never used 6.1 have used 5 and 03 on a pda). It was fast, rarely crashed and generally did the job...

I had 2003 and have 6.0. It's always been fast enough, and doesn't crash too much, but it's not easy enough to use for me.
 
I'm still not getting why - with HTC's nice hardware - Windows Mobile is now good? I thought the general concensus was that it's cack? Surely hi-res cack is still cack? There's people here who see the merits in RIM, Apple and Palm, and I've never seen any of them say it's about hardware.
Have you watched the video I linked to? HTC offer an entirely different user experience - it's modern, fresh and crisp, and comprehensive enough to mean that many users will hardly ever have to dip down into the murky depths of WM's antiquated interface.

So HTC HD users will end up with a superb, class-leading spec'd phone with an interface that may be every bit as good as the iPhone for them - just so long as they're not power users who will regularly need to rummage in the ugly WM gubbins.

I tried a Treo 500v a while ago that was running Vodafone's own 'shell' interface and it was infinitely nicer experience than using what runs on the newer (and superior) Treo Pro, so it's not WM that's got better - it's the third party vendors successfully pulling a highly usable and funky interface out of the unfriendly mess that is WM.
No idea, sometimes it looks like some people (I've seen this here and on other blogs) will like anything they think can be used to knock the iPhone.
Why should it be about 'knocking the iPhone'?

I haven't knocked the iPhone at all in this thread - in fact, I've been very fair. So who has?
 
Very true, everyone always asks if I have a Blackberry. I just tell them its the nokia, version, far easier then explaining that they weren't the first and there are many other devices with keyboards.

Back before smartphones, I had a Windows CE personal organiser.

"Ooh you have a Palm!"
"Well this it the Microsoft version, but yes thanks for noticing."

See also: Hoover, Walkman, iPod, to varying degrees. Not sure if iPhone's quite at those sorts of levels yet.
 
No idea, sometimes it looks like some people (I've seen this here and on other blogs) will like anything they think can be used to knock the iPhone.
It's a phone. There's good ones and bad ones. Intransigent belligerence towards one make is as daft as doggedly eulogising about another. Doesn't matter which one you get, in a few years time it'll be passé anyway....;)
 
Ed... I probably need to get my hands on one. I guess I'm sceptical about UI skinning based on other comments I read here, and playing with the Omnia, although the latter could simply have been an example of Orange's UI nastiness.
 
Back before smartphones, I had a Windows CE personal organiser.

"Ooh you have a Palm!"
"Well this it the Microsoft version, but yes thanks for noticing."

See also: Hoover, Walkman, iPod, to varying degrees. Not sure if iPhone's quite at those sorts of levels yet.

No where near being the definitve name.

A friend of the family used to be chairmen of electrolux and used to go mental when we said the hoovering.

dave
 
I'm giving up on these damn smartphones. My TyTn II keyboard is just about broken now. I can't text and walk
This is a clincher and why I skipped over the TII release.

A smartphone with a foldout or obscured keyboard is no longer smart, as I'm concerned.
 
This is a clincher and why I skipped over the TII release.

A smartphone with a foldout or obscured keyboard is no longer smart, as I'm concerned.
Amen to that. It's got to have proper hard keys and none of this swivel/fold/slide-out bollocks and definitely none of this ghastly onscreen malarkey.
 
This is a clincher and why I skipped over the TII release.

A smartphone with a foldout or obscured keyboard is no longer smart, as I'm concerned.

The slide out keyboard on my old XDA Mini S worked perfectly well, better than the Treo 750 I had or the the Centro's...
 
Hmmm, I'm on orange, so did some googling.

The HTC Touch HD is exclusive on the Orange UK network until 2009 from £79.99 on an 18 month, £40 per month contact.

Which isn't bad compared to say an iphone, but still a long and expensive contract.

Would be nice if they put android on it, its got a larger screen then the G1 and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
 
From Ed's link

Well, wonder no more my mobile phone friend, as Orange has announced it has exclusive rights to the new handset, and it will be coming in early November.

So looks that way. Its tempting, but think I will wait till next year and see if any more Android powered phones come out.
 
Looks interesting until you get the Windows Mobile bit. I hope there's a decent smartphone out in a few months, or I might even be forced into an iPhone :eek:
 
I'm still not getting why - with HTC's nice hardware - Windows Mobile is now good? I thought the general concensus was that it's cack? Surely hi-res cack is still cack? There's people here who see the merits in RIM, Apple and Palm, and I've never seen any of them say it's about hardware.

Well, the big problem I used to have with WM was that it could be slow. With more than 20% extra processing power, the new devices appear to have that licked.

My other annoyances were the fiddly interface (largely resolved with Touch Flo3D unless you need to get under the bonnet) and the poor touch screen response to fingers (fixed by a better screen, but more importantly a bigger screen less chance of mistyping.

Try one out in an Orange shop.. I genuinely found it easier to type.

The interface probably won't seem as nice to an iPhone fan once you get past the touchflo into message writing, for example, but for me that's not a problem. I prefer a greater degree of control.
 
I should add, I just ordered one on the strength of a muckaround with one in the shop. Looks amazing, screen is superb, typing is dead easy, and the reviews are rock solid.
 
It really does, doesn't it? Have absolutely no buyer's remorse about choosing it, which is rare for me.

Go check it out in a shop. It's better than I could have imagined.
 
Some of the deals aren't too bad either:

HTC Touch HD (£189) + T-Mobile Combi 30 + Web N Walk
£35.00 Monthly, 12 Month, 300 Minutes,Texts, 1GB Data
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=175205

HTC Touch HD (FREE) O2 600 + 500 18mth
18 Month Contract, £35.00 per month
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-ph...hd-deals.php?gclid=CPaUoZf9hJcCFQrAGgodHHjtYw

HTC Touch HD (£35) 400 + 500 Free SMS
18 Month Contract, £30.00 per month
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-ph...u=HTC&hset=htc-touch-hd-deals&x=72&y=4#pimage
 
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