How's your april pay rise?
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Guineveretoo said:
Well in the Passport agency they have only just had an offer for last year! And that only after they balloted for a strike!
Where I am the settlement date is 1 July. Union has submitted a claim already.
However, it's going to be shit in the CS this year. HMT are insisting on overall cuts in the pay budget and pay increases even lower than last years limits with no internal recycling allowed (where savings elsewhere are recycled back in to pay). Last years pay rise left me worse off after travel etc increases. This years will leave me worse off than I was this time last.
Still keeps me angry and militant.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Being angry and militant is always goodGroucho said:Well in the Passport agency they have only just had an offer for last year! And that only after they balloted for a strike!
Where I am the settlement date is 1 July. Union has submitted a claim already.
However, it's going to be shit in the CS this year. HMT are insisting on overall cuts in the pay budget and pay increases even lower than last years limits with no internal recycling allowed (where savings elsewhere are recycled back in to pay). Last years pay rise left me worse off after travel etc increases. This years will leave me worse off than I was this time last.
Still keeps me angry and militant.
The various bargaining areas need to submit a proper, well thought out business case to the Treasury to argue for more reasonable pay rises, but this is mostly being left to the HR folks who don't seem to be able to manage it terribly well. The unions within the different Departments and Agencies really need to get their act together and work with the employer on this one.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
I got a bonus this month which I wasn't expecting (only a few hundred quid, not a city-type mega £$£$ thing!). I think it might be an error and so I'm going to keep my gob shut about it in the hope that nobody notices! Are there any rules about your rights to keep overpayments?
Guineveretoo said:Being angry and militant is always good
We are working to try and get the various bargaining areas to submit a proper, well thought out business case to the Treasury to argue for more reasonable pay rises, but this is mostly being left to the HR folks who don't seem to be able to manage it terribly well. The unions within the different Departments and Agencies really need to get their act together and work with the employer on this one.
Look at the PCS national pay campaign poster and you'll see various coloured balls. The big ball in the middle shows the Dept with one of the highest CS pay rates. We got there not by working with the employer but by striking and working to rule back in 2001.... Our employer is 'The Crown' but for pay purposes it is HMT. They don't listen to or care about well thought out business cases, only for ill thought out targets. Of course if your HR and Finance people fuck up HMT will penalise the Dept.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Yes, I have seen the PCS National Pay Campaign materialGroucho said:
I am not for a second suggesting that a well thought out business case will be the solution to all ills, merely that this needs to be done at this stage, to maximise the chances of the Treasury allowing a little bit more money through the remit process.
This is the first year that the Treasury have openly encouraged business cases, and said that they may provide a little bit more money to those areas which can make the case well. In my experience, the Departments and Agencies are not often very good at making that case, or don't even bother trying. Hence my comment about the need to get them making the effort. It's very early days.
Guineveretoo said:Yes, I have seen the PCS National Pay Campaign material
I am not for a second suggesting that a well thought out business case will be the solution to all ills, merely that this needs to be done at this stage, to maximise the chances of the Treasury allowing a little bit more money through the remit process.
This is the first year that the Treasury have openly encouraged business cases, and said that they may provide a little bit more money to those areas which can make the case well. In my experience, the Departments and Agencies are not often very good at making that case, or don't even bother trying. Hence my comment about the need to get them making the effort. It's very early days.
I thought business cases were always part of the payremit clearance process. Where I worked our Dept were shit at preparing them and the Finance people always fucked up. The union was moderate and we ended up one of the loweest paid Govt. Depts. Then in 2001 the union in the Dept. shifted gear and we hit them with a bloody great Business Case - pay us our full claim or lose £Bbns in penalties through industrial action. They imposed a shit pay increase saying we have no more money. We balloted for strikes. They gave us another pay rise saying 'we really really have no more money at all now.' We struck and struck again, working to rule over months with a rolling programme of strikes. They paid up in full.
It would be a bit harder to do that today. We need national action for the national pay claim. Doubt it'll be this year though. Strikes against job cuts first I guess....
No pay rise and I'm too lowly to qualify for bonuses as well
I'm due my interview soon to see if I can move up a grade and qualify for more pay (£50 a month extra after tax) and the bonus (next year).
I'm miles better than people who've been there longer than me as well
I'm due my interview soon to see if I can move up a grade and qualify for more pay (£50 a month extra after tax) and the bonus (next year).
I'm miles better than people who've been there longer than me as well
top_biller
a big bowl of wrong
New job, 7 grand pay rise so all is good.
dervish
if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble
dolly's gal said:wtf? how does that work???
My assistant was a receptionist, she got moved to help me, they didn't cut her pay, I've only been doing this job for three months, the last librarian was paid about £2,000 less! We are expanding, my job is about to get harder, I'll leave it a month then ask for another raise.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Well, I've just been informed that there's a pay freeze this year. 
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Hollis said:
They can't even use annual leave or other such benefits as a way of making a low pay increase seem better in the civil service anymore - the Treasury have decided that they have to put a cost on them, even though there is no real cost to an extra day's leave
Ooh, it makes me cross!
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I've just got a £2.5 bonus but no pay rise
Hollis
bloody furious
Guineveretoo said:They can't even use annual leave or other such benefits as a way of making a low pay increase seem better in the civil service anymore - the Treasury have decided that they have to put a cost on them, even though there is no real cost to an extra day's leave
Well - I suppose there could be a real cost in terms of, 'output'. That's assuming we're all working at maximum capacity of course.
moonsi til
worked it out now!
2.5 %...so naff all really but it was to be expected (nhs). No annual bonus and I get the choice of working xmas or new year, verbal and physical abuse is par for the course as is working with temp staff and most often forgo a break just so I can leave on time (nursing) .
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
PieEye said:£2.50 is a bit stingy.
I got 4% and a £500 bonus. I want more. I always want more
Oops £2.5K! Gonna finally buy me a Mac so I can surf at home and not get in trouble at work.
And I'm gonna get fit and get a bike.
moonsi til
worked it out now!
Orang Utan said:
Lol....I was wondering where you worked...
Shandril19
Member
Hollis said:
Wow... I seethe with jealousy. I have to work for the company for 15 more years to get 25 days of vacation.
filthygypsy
Too filthy for you!
sleaterkinney said:Well, I've just been informed that there's a pay freeze this year.
Same here. Worked my butt off this last 2 years for this company, exceeded all my objectives, boss really pleased, but still no payrise at all. Even my bonus which makes up a large part of my salary has also been cancelled this year.
Sad thing is, im getting paid 6k less now than i was 6 years back in a lower, less responsible role.
Its luck of the draw really, many old work mates who used to work under me have changed companies and have had 40% pay increases over the past few years. So they all earn more.
Unfortunately the situation in my company, same as many is that they will happily pay you well below the market rate and refuse to give you any more even if you work hard. Then, you hand your notice in and leave, and they then pay your replacement the market rate, or above - Even though the new person needs to be trained up and isnt as good as you. I just cant understand the logic. If they had give you the market rate when you asked, they could save themselves the 20% agency fee and all the hassle of letting a good employee go to be replaced by someone who isnt as good.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I get 30Shandril19 said:
ScallyWag II
New Member
No pay rises or bonuses for over two years, small struggling company story again, although hopefully that will change this year as the company has merged with a bigger one. Pay reviews used to be on 1st July, in the new place they're 31st December...and we merged on 1st January! so no rise until December at least and no bonuses get paid here at all
