rachamim18 said:
No Jew EVER invaded the lands now alternatively called "Israel" and "Palestine." Jews are the indigenous inhabitants of said lands. By the first time an Arab ever appeared outside of Arabia, it was 400 odd years before the Common Era! Jews already had a good 2,000 years on that land!
RhyGethin: "That the Zionists would be willing to give up something." You mean like Gaza? Or how about the "West Bank?"
"The unfortunate Arafat who got nothing by it." Except the 1 billion US allowance for his wife Suha paid for by International AID to this very day while she never once lived there. Or maybe you mean the concreter monopolyhe held, theone that provided almost all of the concrete for the Barrier? Or do you mean his 17 Security Forces who ALL paid kickbacks back to him? Should "I go on or sahould you reasearch it a bit more?
"Concetrationa Camp guards." Please do eleborate because I do not see you making any sense at all with that one.
"Give the 'Palestinian' back their country, and the Jews their 'Greater Israel." Um, you do know do you, that this is a totally contradictory statement, right? It makes no sense at all.
If you bother to read the Bible, you will see that one of the earlies historical events we hear about is the invasion of Palestine by Jews. This project, as you perfectly well know, was revived by the Nineteenth Century zionists, though obviously some religious Jews had retired to Jerusalem to die in the intervening period,, as had pious Christians and Muslims, if they could. None of these persons had necesarily any 'genetic' connection with the territory, as you know. Many Jews were converts derived from other parts of the Roman Empire or from the Khazar Empire, which converted to Judaism en
masse. As everywhere else, the bulk of the population, doubtless, were descended from the earliest population, and still are - having been willing - like so many Spanish Jews - to change religion to be allowed to stay. From these, as you know, the Palestinians are descended.
As you know, Mr Arafat was, in effect, murdered by the zionists as part of their attempt to stop a settlement. I do not give a twopenny whatsit for your Goebbels-drivel about his wife. What has that got to do with anything?
As you very well know, the settlers have shown, again and again, that they will never give up ANYTHING - they will just go on stealing more and more from their victims, until they are stopped. They 'gave up' Gaza for fear that the native population should come to outnumber the Master Race, and have been attempting to starve them and murder their children ever since, in an attempt to force them to pretend to accept the Occupation. As you know.
As you also know, the zionist regime, like the Nazis, will, if possible pay a little to get others to do their murders for them. Any 'government' set up in the Bantustan has to agree to all the zionist positions - including suppressing 'terrorism' (i.e. resistance to the murderous occupation) or be treated as Mr Arafat was treated. They can have 'democracy' just as long as they vote for what the occupiers demand and
only that. You know this but, as a propagandist, you have to pretend otherwise - so what, really, is the point of sensible people's talking to you, man? Like Hitler in 1943, you'd better enjoy your mean little triumph while you can!
As is obvious, a single state will, like South Africa, include both settlers and natives, living together in such harmony as they can, while the real nazis either keep quiet or go to the States. But the neo-nazis who stay will be able to say '
our State includes all the biblical Land', while the natives will be able to live where they choose in their own country.
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