jannerboyuk
...just kids gone wild.
Watched the first 2 eps, really enjoyed it although i think there’s a bit of trying to match Game of Thrones violence wise. Seems pretty close to the original mini series just a lot more lavish.
How true to life is James Clavell's Shogun, in its depiction of samurai honour.
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I wouldn’t say that was a conscientious aim sought by the series makers. GoT didn’t invent intense violence, and on these two episodes at least I haven’t seen anything as consistently brutal, both in sporadic instances of violence and sustained subplots depicting horrendous cruelty and viciousness. However, every other TV critic has felt it necessary to draw gratuitous comparisons and mentions of GoT, so perhaps things are about to get far nastier.
Anyways, extremely enjoyable and I am now left with a burning desire to check how historically accurate this might be.
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
I think the critics have also only seen those two episodes. Or at least they had for the initial reviews.
I agree, the GoT stuff is lazy.
jannerboyuk
...just kids gone wild.
Fair enough. Just re-read the first 145 pages of the book and if anything more violent and definitely more sex!
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
how historical accurate is debatable
saying that william adam a british navigator/pilot of the mura
died in japan as the first british fella to land in 1620 with the japanese name Miura Anjin
it is fiction based on historical characters after all
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Just watched the first two - I thought it was relatively restrained, like early GoT was.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
having never watched got
the comparison to a book written 30 year after the novel is kinda odd for me to wrap my head around
saying the shogun novel is very much political scheming as shown in the first 2 episodes .. will be interesting to see if they add a lot more sex to appeal to got fans
the comparison to a book written 30 year after the novel is kinda odd for me to wrap my head around
saying the shogun novel is very much political scheming as shown in the first 2 episodes .. will be interesting to see if they add a lot more sex to appeal to got fans
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Everything is compared to GoT, everything. It lies atop prestige TV like a turd in the bowl.
having never watched got
the comparison to a book written 30 year after the novel is kinda odd for me to wrap my head around
saying the shogun novel is very much political scheming as shown in the first 2 episodes .. will be interesting to see if they add a lot more sex to appeal to got fans
The novel already features anal beads and "my, the foreign guy has a big dick"
I've downloaded the first couple of episodes and I'll check em out this week if I have time.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
and it was still written well before got so guessing even the sexual free element of the lotus world in shogun is friggin tame compared to got
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
The 3rd episode was alright. A lot of action happens in the dark. Not Tom Hardy is starting to grate on me.
Reviews keep mentioning how violent it is. I don't think it is overly graphic, or overly violent. The language is pretty graphic. 'Salty whales tit'!
When I was at school the first telly version was very popular, but I don't remember watching it, and I haven't read the book. I'm enjoying this, but this latest episode wasn't as strong as the first two.
Reviews keep mentioning how violent it is. I don't think it is overly graphic, or overly violent. The language is pretty graphic. 'Salty whales tit'!
When I was at school the first telly version was very popular, but I don't remember watching it, and I haven't read the book. I'm enjoying this, but this latest episode wasn't as strong as the first two.
Early GoT was restrained?
Didn't a young boy fall and become paralysed after watching his sister fuck her own brother in the first episode? I could be wrong, been a while.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Not Tom Hardy is such an amusingly accurate description I lol at it at least once per ep. I'm on Ep five, big thumbs up from me.
Tom Hardy plays the elder son of a dying gangster boss, about to assume control of the family firm. Little Tom plays his younger brother who also wants the top job but is arrogant and lazy and fucks everything up. There's a lot of punching and one particularly gruesome death.
Four years later a lower budget prequel is made about the brothers growing up, with none of the original cast returning.
Four years later a lower budget prequel is made about the brothers growing up, with none of the original cast returning.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Not Tom Hardy has become less annoying.
I also refer to Tom Sizemore as Not Michael Madsen, and Frank Harper as Not Ray Winstone.
I also refer to Tom Sizemore as Not Michael Madsen, and Frank Harper as Not Ray Winstone.
krtek a houby
Saoirse don Phalaistín!
Watched ep 1 last night, thumbs up from the better half and we are loving Cosmo Jarvis.
