How to tell real fur from fake fur?
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Ceej
Where is my mind?
Personally, I wouldn't wear fur because I object to a living animal being treated as a by-product of something to wrap around my neck. I'm vegetarian, but I have no problem with meat-eaters, all part of the food chain, big animals eat smaller animals, and most of us would prefer to eat animals who have had happy lives. I'm happy to wear leather, and people in cold climates who wear fur generally eat the animal in question.
I just have a problem with using an animal simply for its skin - I just find it repellent.
I just have a problem with using an animal simply for its skin - I just find it repellent.
joustmaster
offcumdun
thats funny, cos i am a meat eater, and have no problems with vegans, but do with vegetarians.
joustmaster
offcumdun
its true. i can't wait untill goats can apply for driving licences
that isn't going far enough, we need to redesign cars so goats can reach the pedals as well
Ceej
Where is my mind?
Why, pray?
Geri
wasn't born to follow
This is my view as well - although I am not a vegetarian, so I am told that makes me a hypocrite.
Geri
wasn't born to follow
Joustmaster, several people have already explained on this thread why they consider fur to be wrong. If you are still unable to understand, there is a lot of information about the fur trade on the RSPCA website:
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=fur
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=fur
Geri
wasn't born to follow
Rabbit is used in pet food, so there's an argument that coney fur is a by product of the meat industry, like leather, but mink, chinchilla, raccoon, polecats/ferrets. foxes etc. are not. Those animals are killed solely for their fur.
joustmaster
offcumdun
ok i see. its like battery farmed hens and stuff. and worse. what we need is the option for organic free range fur. that would be ok then?
joustmaster
offcumdun
Probably the same reason I have problems with meat eaters who will eat a cow but get squeamish about a horse
yeah exactly!
not eat meat but wear leather or drink milk or eat cheese, both of which are responsible for loads of animal deaths. seems a bit of best of both worlds. to me.
im far more clever than you, so is it ok for me to kill you?
your statement is wrong anway.
it IS wrong (as in illegal) to kill humans.
it is also ilegal to kill some animals.
the vast maojority of humans do have a problem with killing animals, even if they get it done for them (meat).
i find it rather scary people whose emotions arent rumbled by it. it concerns me that these people may not care to omuch about any life loss.
there is a link bewteen animal killers and human killers.
um, a human is NOT bigger than a cow (ref food chain, big animals eat smaller animals).
how do you determine what a "happy" life is for a cow?
i totally agree.
Bollocks, much of humanity lives a lot closer to their food supply than people do in Western countries and they don't get all sentimental about killing a few furry things for food.
I find it a bit scary that there's people out there who find killing animals and killing humans comparable - and I find it terrifying that Barry Horne's ghost appears to be posting on the Internet from the afterlife!
joustmaster
offcumdun
I don't think the vast majority of all the humans on the planet have a problem with animals being killed. Just a vocal minority.
Its not that i think/feel nothing for the dead animal that becomes my tea and shoes, its just that if you see a load of animal being born, raised and eventually slaughtered, you see it all in a very different light.
The only thing that makes it a bad thing for me would be intensive farming techniques. but i can't bother be that much cos i will still have an egg sandwich, a cheesy pizza, or a Donna kebab from a cheap takeaway when i'm pissed.
fogbat
The Talibum
Surely a relevant related point is how much of a meat animal is used for meat, then?
joustmaster
offcumdun
i bet most of it is used in some way. it cost money to throw stuff away.
baldrick
hmmmmm
you wouldn't wear fur, but you wear leather? leather isn't a by-product of the meat industry you know.
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
aahh
so the RSPCA campaigns against fur does it?
would that be the same RSPCA that endorses Freedom Food? More on the RSPCA's Freedom Food here
The same RSPCA that keeps horses is conditions like this? that cause the British Equine Veterinary Association to state their concerns about the RSPCA's treatment of horses here?
The same RSPCA that put down this
healthy pet cat?
While I'm opposed to animal cruelty I don't really see the RSPCA as a credible source of information. People in glass houses ...etc
Geri
wasn't born to follow
aahh
so the RSPCA campaigns against fur does it?
would that be the same RSPCA that endorses Freedom Food? More on the RSPCA's Freedom Food here
The same RSPCA that keeps horses is conditions like this? that cause the British Equine Veterinary Association to state their concerns about the RSPCA's treatment of horses here?
The same RSPCA that put down this
healthy pet cat?
While I'm opposed to animal cruelty I don't really see the RSPCA as a credible source of information. People in glass houses ...etc
Very interesting, not really sure what relevance it has to the debate about fur.
ah, I see I was correct earlier in the thread.
