How to Kill a Human Being

[girasol]

So many missed opportunities!!!


on a serious note, why not use this for euthanasia if it's such a great method, is it because there are already better ways to kill humanely?

 

[Fruitloop]

How surprising the Tory goes for Hypoxia. Surprised he doesn't insist on ladies underwear bein gworn and an orange in the gob.

Don't forget the poppers.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

The what?

I've got Virgin.........

watch it again here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/i...earch&go=Find+Programmes&version_pid=b008rdy1

 

[King Biscuit Time]

Don't forget the poppers.

And the bin liner.

 

[kittyP]

I'm surprised nobody else was interested... *shrugs*

Does sound interesting but don't have a TV.

 

[aqua]

iplayer can be watched the same night its a fantastic resource (thanks to those who told me about it )

 

[Barking_Mad]

There was a review of this in The Metro paper this morning. I kept seeing people reading the review and then laughing. Curious to find out what it was they were laughing at at I picked up a copy.

It read something along the lines of,

"The programme was a let down due to the fact they had several chances to kill Michael Portillo yet didn't manage to do so"

*shame on me for smirking too*

 

[dylanredefined]

If your going to kill someone as a punishment why worry about being humane about it? Its a bit hypocrtical imho they still end up dead.
Anyone who deserves the death penalty really shouldn't be the sort of person who deserves humane treatment otherwise we shouldn't kill them.
Either make sure they are guilty and kill them quickly or dont bother .
The us system is rubbish takes years to get round to excuting someone and
cant even gurantee they are guilty .

 

[Sweaty Betty]

That poor bloody rabbit and pig- im still having flashbacks!!!!!

 

[Gingerman]

That pro execution bloke at the end was a cock.

Even Portillo was taken aback by his attitude

 

[poului]

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And this suggestion that if they go out on a high they die without any sense of pain.


I can't imagine the several hours leading up to the execution to be a "painless" experience by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[beeboo]

oh my god, this bloke who wants a painful death

Words failed me I cannot quite believe he was supposed to be a respected advisor to the government and he was coming out with that! I mean, why stop there, why not go all out torture them slowly til they die?

Not only was his viewpoint repellant it was unintelligent and ill-conceived. I'd have been shocked if that had been the reaction of the average man in the street, let alone someone who purported to be some kind of "professor"

The irony of it is one of the things which is currently MOST likely to undermine the status of the death penalty in the states is the very fact that the current methods of execution are inhumane and unreliable! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. What a complete cock.

 

[spacemonkey]

If your going to kill someone as a punishment why worry about being humane about it? Its a bit hypocrtical imho they still end up dead.
Anyone who deserves the death penalty really shouldn't be the sort of person who deserves humane treatment otherwise we shouldn't kill them.
Either make sure they are guilty and kill them quickly or dont bother .
The us system is rubbish takes years to get round to excuting someone and
cant even gurantee they are guilty .

Yeah! If they're going to end up dead anyway, it doesn't really matter it gets botched and sets their head on fire first.

 

[spacemonkey]

And this suggestion that if they go out on a high they die without any sense of pain.


I can't imagine the several hours leading up to the execution to be a "painless" experience by any stretch of the imagination.

Any sense of physical pain.

 

[dylanredefined]

Yeah! If they're going to end up dead anyway, it doesn't really matter it gets botched and sets their head on fire first.

humane death penalty is just a sop so they can carry on killing .

 

[Sweaty Betty]

humane death penalty is just a sop so they can carry on killing .

You really think that????

dont ask me why but even with what they have done, the thought of setting fire to someones head really leaves me scared and cold!!!!!! humanity??????

 

[invisibleplanet]

I missed this, so I'm watching again now on the BBC iplayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008rdyh.shtml

 

[beeboo]

humane death penalty is just a sop so they can carry on killing .

In some respects I'm glad the current means of administering the death penalty are quite barbaric as it all adds to the case for abolishing it.

In my mind, the main issue is that death penalty is fundamentally, philosophically wrong regardless of whether someone dies in a hypoxic euphoria or with their head on fire. If having a debate about the methods of execution strengthens the status of the death penalty, then it's a debate I'd sooner not have

 

[spacemonkey]

humane death penalty is just a sop so they can carry on killing .

eh? Who's 'they?

Currently, no government uses humane methods (except arguably lethal injection).

 

[moomoo]

watch it again here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/i...earch&go=Find+Programmes&version_pid=b008rdy1

Oooh, I'll watch that later!

Thanks.

 

[samk]

He looked a complete psycho. Did you notice his stance while talking to Portillo, like he was about to start a fight.

But I think that's a common attitude about capital punishment amongst US rightists, they're into revenge not justice.

Maybe people advocate the kind of punishment that's needed to deter them, so someone who isn't violently inclined may think 20 years is enough of a deterrent to murder, but someone who regularly fantasizes about killing their wife may think if there wasn't the death penalty they are a wimp for not doing it?

 

[chymaera]

eh? Who's 'they?

Currently, no government uses humane methods (except arguably lethal injection).

I take it you did not see the program. There have been some serious cockups with executions by lethal injection.

 

[Cloud]

Honest, I sat down with my supper last night to watch this on catch up tv and fucking hell it put me off.

It all struck me as barbaric torture, left an uneasy feeling in my stomach. I actually turned it off, couldn't watch anymore.

 

[invisibleplanet]

I still oppose the death penalty after watching the progamme with Portillo.

 

[spacemonkey]

I take it you did not see the program. There have been some serious cockups with executions by lethal injection.

Obviously I did see the program, being the thread starter and discussing the program all the way through.

Why do you think I put the word 'arguably' in the sentence. I know there are serious flaws with lethal injection, however, if the Sodium thiopental is administered correctly there should be no pain.

 

[beeboo]

I still oppose the death penalty after watching the progamme with Portillo.

Why would it change your mind? I imagine most people are opposed in principle rather than because of the practicalities.

 

[poului]

Any sense of physical pain.

crikey, I hadn't thought of that distinction before!

 

[dylanredefined]

I just think its bollocks looking for a humane way to kill people .Whats wrong with just shooting or hanging ?
If society cared about people it wouldnt kill them .Or is it just a way to carry on killing prisoners as it dosen't look that bad .

 

[spacemonkey]

crikey, I hadn't thought of that distinction before!

I was just saying, he was only analysing the physiological side of things and didn't make any suggestion that the experience as a whole would be free of any kind of pain.

 

[spacemonkey]

I just think its bollocks looking for a humane way to kill people .Whats wrong with just shooting or hanging ?
If society cared about people it wouldnt kill them .Or is it just a way to carry on killing prisoners as it dosen't look that bad .

Did you watch the program?