How to destroy the BNP?
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Such as policemen being instructed by immigration officials to give directions to the nearest immigration office to collared illegal immigrants - such as the granting of British citizenship to foreign criminals AND, the huge influx of immigrants over the past 12 years. You shouldn't believe everything that you read in the Guardian either! Your experience with your wife is hardly testament to the tribulations of potential immigrants - there are many millions who have faced no difficulties whatsoever - and countless many more still here, many years after it has been deemed that they shouldn't be.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Abduct Nick Griffin and tattoo him brown from head to toe.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I really think this Question Time thing is interesting. Griffin fundamentally is not that bright - he's not STUPID, but he's clearly no genius - and I think he'll get shown up badly. I can't understand why Labour still have this policy of non-engagement; seems to me like the wolf is now at the door and Gordon Brown is just turning the telly up to block out the sound of the scratching.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Excellent!
"Your personal experience of the system in action is irrelevant compared to the scaremongering articles I have read in the newspaper I occasionally read"
Excellent!
"Your personal experience of the system in action is irrelevant compared to the scaremongering articles I have read in the newspaper I occasionally read"
Brilliant!
Being male, I have never given birth, but I KNOW that it hurts. And perhaps you have forgotten the whistleblower who successfully sued the government for unfair dismissal, after being sacked for telling the public how inept the immigration authorities are. Now he did of course have relevant experience. You might even have noticed it in the Guardian!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
The immigrants are definitely the problem facing this country. Not simply one of many symptoms caused by the naked greed of the pragmatic neoliberalist mode of capital. It's the immigrants. I can blame them without having to think to hard 
The immigration people have become right cunts of late. Recently went through the non-EU passport section of Gatwick Airport. Only my wife has a non-EU passport and we have travelled together as a family, with myself and my two kids both on UK passports, loads of times and gone through this part with no problems.
But this time the Immigration twonk started asking my Daughter if my wife was her sister and then questioning her about my name.
I was so shocked that I just stood there looking bemused. In the past it was always just a smile and a formality with, on more than one occassion, my wife being asked if she would mind helping out to translate from some others who spoke no English.
I loathe what this country has become under new Labour. Nasty fucking control freaks on so many levels.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
The immigrants are definitely the problem facing this country. Not simply one of many symptoms caused by the naked greed of the pragmatic neoliberalist mode of capital.
It's the immigrants. I can blame them without having to think to hard
I guess that explains it then.
Fictionist
Serving Eargasms....
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
What about Martin Webster & Harvey Proctors 'special relationship'
Or just Martin Webster.
The emergence of the political soldier wing as a credible force, and splits between them and others ie Flag Group that caused the splintering.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
He's a real prat, that one
someone really needs to point out the illogic in what they say about how muslim populations grow faster so eventually they will outnumber non muslims and turn the uk into an islamic state. otherwise good people who are concerned with womens rights and so on might be taken in by there disgusting lies.
You don't know for sure that they will eventually outnumber non-muslims in this country. Fertility rates for Bangladeshi and Pakistani women (most of whom we can assume are Muslim) are in gradual decline.
Muslims will almost certainly make up a considerably bigger proportion of the population in, say, thirty years' time. That's about all that can be said with much certainty.
Will a sizeable number of them want Britain to become an Islamic state? Again, no-one knows.
It is these uncertainties which I reckon many people find unnerving and provide opportunities for the BNP to exploit. A lot of the Far Right's rhetoric revolves around dire predictions of what the future will be like. Even when they sieze on present-day issues, it's often to say 'you can expect a lot more of this'.
yeah, im sure the avarage muslim thinking four kids is ideal will decline on account of fertility rates. and im sure most normal muslims are in favour of personal freedoms, equal rights for women and so on. its just a small element within there community such as the sharia for uk group that dislike those things. as we see clearly across the world countries with mainly muslim populations are starting to move away from oppressive religous rulers and towards more personal freedoms, such as in iraq and afghanistan. and the way the outcry across the muslim world at the 911 mass murders far outweighed those over, say, the muhamed cartoons clearly shows that your avarage normal muslim is a million miles from the fundamentalst mentality and so would never want there religion to be imposed on any country in any way.
I was being straight with you. Be straight with me.
Yeah I do think there are things about multiculturalism which should be looked at, but in a more positive way. I mean surely it ought to be good to want a society in which people can walk down the street and feel part of a shared society. But the BNP going on about muslim men grooming young white women as paedophiles does the exact opposite of that.
It's always good to want that. Any normal semi-decent person likes to see people of different creeds and different races getting along together.
Being pragmatic, lengthy arguments about what people should or shouldn't do, or what is or isn't valid, don't interest me much. Better to think of what's possible, and what the likely outcomes are of different policies.
Short answer to your questions: if a lot of people perceive immigration levels to be threatening, any political party promoting anti-immigration policies like they mean it will gain increased support.
Some people want to have their cake and eat it by being relaxed about high immigration levels, but then act surprised when widespread anti-immigration sentiment starts making itself known. They're kidding themselves on.
Short answer to your questions: if a lot of people perceive immigration levels to be threatening, any political party promoting anti-immigration policies like they mean it will gain increased support.
Some people want to have their cake and eat it by being relaxed about high immigration levels, but then act surprised when widespread anti-immigration sentiment starts making itself known. They're kidding themselves on.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Of course its not valid anymore than saying you don't wish to share the world with people from any other group.
What force do you mean?
Ungrateful
Tired and Weary
Or saying that as the majority don't want to see Stoat Boy enjoying the benefits of oxygen, he should have this liberty removed. Certain rights take precedence over majority rule.
Further the demand not to have a multicultural society is almost wholly incoherent. Almost every society is multicultural. The culture of the rich is different to the culture of the poor (and I see Stoat boy isn;t in favour of getting rid of this difference). The cultural practices of one part of town (for instance wearing blue on match days) are going to be different to those of another part (wearing red) - they'll celebrate different historical figures, mark different anniversaries, but in these cases its often possible to find things in common too, and enjoy the differences through friendly rivalry.
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