How much stuff is too much stuff on the Tube?
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I looked it up. It's called Heathrow Connect. £6.90 from Paddington, 25 minutes, racks for the luggage. here.
Never take the Heathrow Express ever again, folks.
Hmmm. Is that new? They certainly keep it quiet. Doesn't the picadilly line take about 1.hr 10mins, from memory?
i'm not sure if it was a serious threat, but i was quite shocked.
i was struggling to get my massive case into a luggage rack, and blocked the gangway for all of 10 seconds... some dude said he'd fucking kill me if i didn't move.
he may have had some drink earlier in the day...
the button
out on the kocker
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I looked it up. It's called Heathrow Connect. £6.90 from Paddington, 25 minutes, racks for the luggage. here.
Never take the Heathrow Express ever again, folks.
I flew from heathrow 5 or 6 times 2007/08 needing to arrive at about 6.30am and each time I checked the tfl website. I don't recall ever being pointed in the direction of this service. I never understood how the heathrow express was sensible for anyone who didn't live next door to Paddington station. My journey was on average only ten minutes longer and less hassle using the piccadilly line.
The last flight I took was after Boris got in and tfl only wanted to offer me heathrow express, not the piccadilly line.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Google 'heathrow train' and it's the top hit.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Ok, you're deliberately missing my point.
I'm talking about tube etiquette and having consideration for others.
There's no luggage restriction, so...
Mind you, I was once guilty of getting on a Northern Line from Moorgate to Clapham South with a Bergen, a kitbag, and a case of wine, so I have been guilty of taking the piss a bit myself.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
perhaps if selfish cunts left a few minutes earlier then they would be on the tube in front or not so worried about getting to their destination on time and therefore wouldn't get angery or object to others using the tube with their mountians of stuff in tow.
If they nearly stopped you getting on the tube then you didn't leave sufficent time in your journey to allow for hold ups on a notoriously intermittant service. It's hardly their fault that you can't manage your own time is it...
If they nearly stopped you getting on the tube then you didn't leave sufficent time in your journey to allow for hold ups on a notoriously intermittant service. It's hardly their fault that you can't manage your own time is it...
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I don't see why it's taking the piss. I don't have a car, I can't drive because my sight isn't good enough. I do a useful job which unfortunately pays badly, I get from a to b by public transport. If people have a problem with hoi polloi and their luggage, they're the ones who should avoid public transport.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Our bicycles when put into hard shells are pretty massive - we had them on the Piccadilly line back from Heathrow once. People weren't happy and I can see why, but it's just one of those things really. I always feel awful if I have a rucksack etc - especially if it's rush hour (which I definitely try to avoid) - but it's very much par for the course on the Piccadilly line really.
When I took that trans-Siberian express, a German woman transported an entire 3 piece bamboo suite in the cabin she had to share with 3 other people. They were mightily pissed off! It was near impossible to get the furniture in there - let alone the passengers too. 
When I took that trans-Siberian express, a German woman transported an entire 3 piece bamboo suite in the cabin she had to share with 3 other people. They were mightily pissed off!
It was near impossible to get the furniture in there - let alone the passengers too. 
Cid
Proper break this time
No, you're missing the point
Everyone is entitled to use the Tube. However and whenever they can.
Except if you have a bike. So surely something that takes up more space than a bike is at least 'bad form'.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I take up more space than a bike.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Actually there are stretches where you can have a bike (where the station is overland) - we had our bikes on the tube (entirely legitimately) last week.
See here:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/bicycle-tube-map-0108.pdf
and
http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=65
When I took that trans-Siberian express, a German woman transported an entire 3 piece bamboo suite in the cabin she had to share with 3 other people. They were mightily pissed off!
This is fantastic
Cid
Proper break this time
Excellent; had no idea... Have always lived on the Northern or Victoria lines so I suppose never noticed.
Still not during rush hour though... I always plan on avoiding rush hour; I'll even sit in the airport and have a coffee or something if I have to, it's just a nightmare with lots of luggage. And it is a bit selfish.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
When I used the tube to try and get a workmate table back for Crispy (heavy, awkward to move and large), the majority of people who took offense or were particularly unhelpful were the suited and booted commuter types. Which was a bit "hey, I'm trying to transport something about a third of my weight, it's bad enough for me trying to lug it around without you barging into me, could you please give me 5 secs of consideration?!". However, there were a few people who were really lovely, and who helped me carry it for small sections of my journey.
I agree that I'm sure it feels a lot worse for those with the luggage, feeling they're in the way, than the people around them.
I agree that I'm sure it feels a lot worse for those with the luggage, feeling they're in the way, than the people around them.
Tbh I've never been bothered by backpacks on the tube (and use them myself) - what really gets me are the really little bags on wheels. The ones which are about the size of a largish handbag. Really, can people not carry these things? They're not so bad admittedly on the actual tube, but I've almost tripped over so many of them in the station moving around. On a bad day I have fantasies about kicking them.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Oooh yes, I get whacked on the ankle or nearly trip over badly steered ones at least twice a week. They're lethal, especially near restricted field of vision people like me.what really gets me are the really little bags on wheels. The ones which are about the size of a largish handbag. Really, can people not carry these things? They're not so bad admittedly on the actual tube, but I've almost tripped over so many of them in the station moving around. On a bad day I have fantasies about kicking them.
Cid
Proper break this time
Tbh I've never been bothered by backpacks on the tube (and use them myself) - what really gets me are the really little bags on wheels. The ones which are about the size of a largish handbag. Really, can people not carry these things? They're not so bad admittedly on the actual tube, but I've almost tripped over so many of them in the station moving around. On a bad day I have fantasies about kicking them.
And a sodding table is fine?
Seriously though, not much gets to me at most times on the tube; but when you absolutely have to endure the nightmare of rush hour anyone carrying more than a small backpack instantly becomes a figure of hate and frustration.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
And a sodding table is fine?
It wasn't like it was assesmbled or anything! It was in a cardboard box, and there was really no other way of getting it home, given the taxi fare would have cost over a third of the whole present and I didn't have the money.
Basically I think sometimes things can't be helped - sometimes people will need to move large luggage or boxes as one offs, and people just have to get on with it. Likewise people have to move buggies around - they are awkward for others, but what are the alternatives? What gets me is when the method of moving something around seems pretty inconvient to others compared to the other alternatives they could use, and I think a small backpack or a carry bag is a lot less awkward for other people than one of those tiny bags on wheels.
And Mrs Magpie seems to agree with me on my little wheely bag hatred.
Btw, a small backpack is my main bag used, and on a busy tube I'll always take it off and hold it by my legs, taking up no extra room and usually getting rather back backache for the journey.
The little wheely bags take up more room in those sorts of circumstances.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
If I have to get gardening tools, piles of book or whatever from a to b, I use my shopping trolley (like a giant duffel bag with wheels and a handle) but I wheel it in front of me and it's bright pillar box red so it's visible. I took it all the way from Brixton to Lower Saxony on the train and it didn't bump into a soul.
I think the biggest thing I've ever personally taken on the tube was a behemoth beanbag. That was pretty awkward to maneouvre too.
The two instances I cited were more: 1. I have a toddler in a pushchair, and I have every right to use public transport, but just for my own sanity and stress if I also had three outsized suitcases and a child seat, I'd definitely have got a taxi. Which is public transport as well, remember. Albeit mightily expensive.
2. The guy with the three huge boxes of copier paper laden on a porter's trolley definitely looked a bit furtive and was trying to avoid attention (in so far as you can with that amount of gear) and was in some sort of uniform, so it looked like some sort of commercial freighting job, which really he should have got a van or something for. I wonder if the tube had rules against firms using it commercially to ship stuff?
And finally, I was on my way to a job interview, had left plenty of time and so wasn't angered in the least. For Garfield and the other hard-of-understanding, there's a difference between "taking the piss", and "being pissed off."
I thought personally, in different ways, both the two mentioned cases were stretching the boundaries of what's ok in rush-hour. But we all have our different definitions of what's too much. Which was the point of this thread.
The two instances I cited were more: 1. I have a toddler in a pushchair, and I have every right to use public transport, but just for my own sanity and stress if I also had three outsized suitcases and a child seat, I'd definitely have got a taxi. Which is public transport as well, remember. Albeit mightily expensive.
2. The guy with the three huge boxes of copier paper laden on a porter's trolley definitely looked a bit furtive and was trying to avoid attention (in so far as you can with that amount of gear) and was in some sort of uniform, so it looked like some sort of commercial freighting job, which really he should have got a van or something for. I wonder if the tube had rules against firms using it commercially to ship stuff?
And finally, I was on my way to a job interview, had left plenty of time and so wasn't angered in the least. For Garfield and the other hard-of-understanding, there's a difference between "taking the piss", and "being pissed off."
I thought personally, in different ways, both the two mentioned cases were stretching the boundaries of what's ok in rush-hour. But we all have our different definitions of what's too much. Which was the point of this thread.
