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How many medal winners do you reckon take performance enhancing drugs?

How many medal winners do drugs?

  • None of them probably

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I reckon most of these sports have got the point where if you don't do the drugs, you won't have the edge.

This is a thread to gauge people's gut feeling on the matter and does not constitute an accusation.

Personally I think people should be able to take what they want. Roll on the 4 second 100m sprint.
 
I agree, maybe we should have 'straight edge' olympics after the paralympics for those who didn't want to partake?
 
Here's the situation in one high profile country:

Clouds do still remain on the Jamaican horizon, however. Perhaps the biggest concern for outside observers is the lack of a fully functioning anti-doping body on the island.

First mooted in 2005, the Jamaican Anti-Doping Commission (Jadco) remains an organisation with more good intentions than testing kits. Repeated promises have been made to fast-track the necessary legislation and funds through parliament but three years later all that is clear is the island's sprinters are faster than its lawmakers.

Neither the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) nor the Jamaican authorities have been able to confirm to BBC Sport that Jadco is actually operating yet. The situation is further muddied by Jamaica's decision to opt out of the Wada-approved Caribbean Regional Anti-Doping Organisation (Rado).

The only organisation currently undertaking widespread testing in Jamaica is the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF).

The Monaco-based governing body has raised its game in recent years, and now actively targets countries without adequate anti-doping regimes of their own (Jamaica is the IAAF's fifth most tested nation), but question marks remain over the effectiveness and transparency of its operations.

The drip, drip of credibility became a haemorrhage when Justin Gatlin and Marion Jones were revealed as drugs cheats

Dr Adrian Lorde, the head of the Caribbean Rado which Jamaica stayed out of, has voiced concerns about the amount of testing done on the island.

When asked by BBC Sport if Jamaica was testing enough, he replied: "I don't get that impression. I would like to think they do that testing there but I really don't know.

"I don't know what level of certification their doping control officers have. We really don't know what is going on in Jamaica.
 
I have no idea and neither does anyone else here unless they're involved in elite sports somewhere
 
I have no idea and neither does anyone else here unless they're involved in elite sports somewhere

I have spoken to someone involved in athletics and they said it wasn't a question of yes or no, but of what and how much.
 
Well at least if our lot are taking them, it works. If your lot are on drugs they can't be very good ones :p

I KNOW! It's like street drugs - the UK's awash with all the good unz.... and for cheap.... :cool: Damn our fucking borders, damn them all to hell :p
 
What we can know is that there will be athletes who will refuse drugs on principle. I would be interested to hear from any of them whether or not they have been offered drugs and who by.
 
Imagine how fast Chris Hoy could go if he was on them leg drugs :cool:/:eek:

Maybe for how long would be a better way of putting it.

And ftr no I don't think he or any of the team are.


As for the bigger picture, fuck knows. There have been cover ups in the past (Flo Jo possibly) so no doubt there will be again.

If you're caught here though, you're pretty fucked.
 
I've got the impression that most developed countries have finally got fairly rigorous programmes and I don't think it's out of control by any means. In the 80s yes, almost everyone, including the Americans, was skanking. But the recent high profile exposures, especially the spectacular fall from grace of Marion Jones, must be making athletes think twice.

I think it's easy to get quite cynical but high-profile athletes are being caught and, at their level, it can't be because they're just inherently more stupid than their peers.

And I think all test samples are now kept, in the event of future developments in testing. That must be a worry for dodgy athletes.

I just think you have to believe and hope for the best. The sport cannot be deregulated because the rewards are potentially such that too many athletes would then consider taking even crazy amounts. There are a lot of bad side effects in these drugs.
 
The consequences for getting caught are harsh. However the consequences of not taking are a failure of a career.

I suspect that the drugs have just got more subtle and the masking agents more sophisticated. Either that or the drugs are one step ahead of the regulations and they take things that haven't yet been banned.
 
The consequences for getting caught are harsh. However the consequences of not taking are a failure of a career.

Exactly.

It's just not possible to compete effectively without drugs and because the rewards for efficacy are so huge, the incentive to cheat is enormous.



I suspect that the drugs have just got more subtle and the masking agents more sophisticated. Either that or the drugs are one step ahead of the regulations and they take things that haven't yet been banned.

That and the fact that out-of-season testing (where pretty much ALL the doping is done,) is so lax - or entirely missing - in so many countries.

Even in countries (such as the UK,) that have relatively stringent O-O-S testing regimes, athletes can still relatively easily employ "duck and dive" techniques in order to gain the advantages of doping while still maintaining negative-test results.


It's a joke.

Woof
 
I doubt our sailing boys and girls are taking drugs.

I doubt our tennis players and boxers are taking drugs.
 
Once again more speculation, "I suspect this" and "they're probably a bit lax there".

Surely if they're all on this new miracle drug that can't be detected world records would be tumbling?

Oh that's right, they aren't are they.

In a court of law you'd be laughed at.

Evidence or STFU.
 
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