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How long will the Southern Trains/Thameslink emergency timetable be in place?

littlebabyjesus said:
Just about every train I've caught to St Albans in the last month has stopped at Radlett. Only a small proportion used to. If Radlett is still getting the same number of trains, that shows how fucked up it must now be.
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It certainly is , extra stops on the fast trains to get people home / to work. Only 500 services a day down on the plan.
 
No services at all to or from Bedford from 0600 to 0900 this morning, because of a signal failure.
 
davesgcr said:
"Up North" struggles just a bit with trains at the moment , unless you live about 5 mins from T'Mill (joke ...do not get cross please !)
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Yeah the trains here have been shit for decades, so I don't wanna hear people in London moaning about waiting fifteen whole minutes for a train when we're still waiting for electrification that we'll never get because all the money has gone on heated seats for the bogs on crossrail.
 
SpookyFrank said:
Yeah the trains here have been shit for decades, so I don't wanna hear people in London moaning about waiting fifteen whole minutes for a train when we're still waiting for electrification that we'll never get because all the money has gone on heated seats for the bogs on crossrail.
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You might think you’re funny. But you’re not.
 
SpookyFrank said:
Yeah the trains here have been shit for decades, so I don't wanna hear people in London moaning about waiting fifteen whole minutes for a train when we're still waiting for electrification that we'll never get because all the money has gone on heated seats for the bogs on crossrail.
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As a matter of accuracy , Crossrail trains will not be fitted with any toilets (a source of some concern to many people) ...however .........
 
The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Govia Thameslink Railway should have its contract immediately removed”.

Government responded:
Passengers have faced totally unsatisfactory levels of service in recent weeks. Ministers share the frustration of passengers about the situation and they intervened as soon as the problems arose.

Passengers on this franchise have faced totally unsatisfactory levels of service in recent weeks. Poor service prior to this, as the Gibb report made clear, had largely been down to industrial action by the trade union on Southern rail. The Secretary of State and the Rail Minister have been clear that they share the frustration of passengers about the situation in recent weeks and they intervened as soon as the problems arose, with the Transport Secretary demanding a recovery plan. Since then, the Department has been in daily contact with the leadership of Network Rail and Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) and have insisted that both organisations put whatever resource is needed into resolving the situation, and into making sure that there is proper industry leadership of the recovery effort. Service information to passengers has improved and considerable work is being undertaken to operate the services in the timetable.

This timetable change was intended to deliver the benefits to passengers of major investment in the rail network. This means, through the £7 billion Thameslink Programme, new trains and improved stations, including the rebuilding of London Bridge and Blackfriars. The programme and timetable changes were designed to provide more frequent and longer trains through central London to respond to the huge growth in passenger numbers that we have seen in recent years. But this timetable change instead has resulted in unacceptable disruption for passengers that rely on these services.

The process of introducing the new timetable was overseen by an Industry Readiness Board, which included representatives from Network Rail, the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) and the train operating companies, and an Independent Assurance Panel. Both of these groups informed the Department that they had not been given any information to suggest that the implementation of the new timetable should be halted. These bodies were set up specifically to ensure that all parts of the rail network – Network Rail, GTR, other train operators - were ready to implement these major timetable changes. It should have been clear to them that some key parties were not ready; they did not raise this risk. As few as 3 weeks before the timetable was to be implemented GTR themselves assured the Transport Secretary they were ready to implement the changes. Clearly this was wrong, and it is totally unacceptable.

Investigations being carried out right now will give more information about what has gone wrong and why the industry remained of the view until the last moment that it would be able to deliver these changes. There has to be a proper investigation into events. Since this petition was launched the Chief Executive of GTR, Charles Horton, has resigned in order to make way for fresh leadership of GTR. Further action may need to be taken against GTR but only once we have the findings of these investigations.

It is right that the industry has apologised for the situation and that Charles Horton has stepped down, and it is right that we learn the lessons for the future, but right now the focus should remain on restoring the reliability of their service to passengers.

Department for Transport
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I'm concerned that my trains seem to be the full new timetable, not a temp one, and thry are shit. Lonfon bridge to Gipsy hill now 18.01, 18.28, 18.31, 18,58. Wtaf? 4 and hour but bunched together and at stupid times so always waiting half hour to get a train after work.
 
keithy said:
I'm concerned that my trains seem to be the full new timetable, not a temp one, and thry are shit. Lonfon bridge to Gipsy hill now 18.01, 18.28, 18.31, 18,58. Wtaf? 4 and hour but bunched together and at stupid times so always waiting half hour to get a train after work.
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There's similar nonsense on my choices leaving Brighton up the mainline...16:03 or 16:26 or 16:33. Then a wait to 17:03 so it's still a half hour wait effectively. The 16:26 is the new train, but what's the point - they are clueless.
 
Train #1 fast service from Kings Cross (8 carriages) was cancelled. Train #2 (8 carriages but 16 carriages worth of drunk passengers) was the slow service.

Dangerously full train :mad: that stopped for 20 minutes halfway to deal with an 'incident' on the train. No guard, no announcement... Just a shit expensive service as usual
 
Can't be arsed going to see my mum on 2 buses, hour and half ride. Surely I can count on Thameslink trains just this once? Not a hope of it.
I checked thameslink app before I leave home. Good sign, trains running fine. No cancellation, no delay.
Get to Loughborough Junction station. Brilliant. Train still on time. Tap in and go upstairs to the platform. By the time I reach the top of those stairs, cancelled. Wtf!!
Really really had enough now. So had to get the poxy buses after all. But now even later cause I was looking forward to a 25 min ride to Hackbridge. So I didn't leave so early.
Wasn't gonna fall for that shit coming back. So went by bus again. But, I did check the app just to see. Next two trains cancelled.
Total fuckers!!
What should be a 25 min journey each way by train. And a short walk through Beddington Park, is now nearly a 4 hr bus ride. Cause the bastard roads are packed coming home.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
all good on SWR, cept for a few delays round the Raynes Park - London slow line
 
I put a few claims in. They declined all but one, telling me that the trains I couldn't get on because they didn't turn up, all arrived on time :mad:

My one payment, not worth the effort and annoyance:

Journey Details
18 June 2018
Farringdon to Tulse Hill at 16:09
Ticket Type:
Ticket Price: £153.60
Decision: Approved. Delay of 15-29 minutes
We have confirmed that the delay you experienced was between 15 - 29 minutes and that you are entitled to £1.00 in compensation.
Award Amount: £1.00
 
I think they are in such a mess that they don't even have proper records of what has and hasn't run. Apparently they are having to phone around stations to work out where all their trains have ended up at at the end of each day.
 
Wtf with trains this morning?!

At one point at 8 15 am at Norwood junction the board read
next train to London Bridge 23.09!
 
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