How do you stop a dog from barking?

[snadge]

Aw, don't worry - I don't smack, punch or kick him! And I certainly would not use a stun collar!

I let him have a tear round the garden and a good old bark as much as possible - but our next door neighbours are the sort that would complain to the authorities and I really don't want him taken off us!

are your neighbours really that crass


ps there is absolutely no way you could get him taken of you for barking in the garden etc

 

[lizzieloo]

I absolutely LOVE Jack Russells, they are a fabulous dog, but they need a LOT of excersise for such a small dog and need to get out in "rough" ground to really exert themselves, off the lead.

I reckon exercise is definately the answer

Edited to add Milly

Yip Yip Yip

 

[snadge]

You could make a doberman a gun dog seeing as they are good at tracking and things, but I get your point.

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it's not about tracking, it's about retreiving game, a doby would just maul the game

 

[lizzieloo]

Aw, don't worry - I don't smack, punch or kick him! And I certainly would not use a stun collar!

I let him have a tear round the garden and a good old bark as much as possible - but our next door neighbours are the sort that would complain to the authorities and I really don't want him taken off us!

Take him out to a field and let him bark and run about

 

[5T3R30TYP3]

I could suggest something, but it depends on whether you want to keep the dog or not.





Sorry.

 

[moomoo]

Yeh but it's a bit late to decide they dont want it now

You could make a doberman a gun dog seeing as they are good at tracking and things, but I get your point.

Not all Jack Russeels bark themselves silly though.

We haven't decided that we don't want it now! And this barking at air is a fairly recent thing - he didn't use to do it. That's why I am asking for advice on how to stop it now!

Snadge - I wouldn't put it past my neighbours to report it, they like any excuse to bitch and moan about people and tbh I don't need the hassle - but thanks for the reassurance that we wouldn't have him taken off us!

 

[zenie]

it's not about tracking, it's about retreiving game, a doby would just maul the game

aah yeh its the soft bite innit

Sorry I'm a bull breed gal


Moomoo wasn't suggesting you would get rid of him just Snadge was saying dont get a breed that will do that.......

If your dog barks and is a nuisanse then yeh theoeretically they could complain about noise levels but only if it was when you weren't there etc.

 

[lizzieloo]

You could always get Miss Whiplash in

 

[Pingu]

iroically one way to teach your dog to stop barking is to...


train them to bark on command


this then allows you to work in the "cease" command


will post more tomorrow when not knackered


positive reinforcers will work 100 times better than negative ones in behavioural shaping like this.


btw your dog is exhibiting classic signs of terretory protection. not a bad thing in otself tbh and perfectly natural but there are ways of helping with this that will help you end up with a clamer happier dog.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

what happens when she takes them out for walks, lets them into the garden etc, is there more than one because that usually calms them down, they don't have to bark because they can relate to the other and they both know each other has seen it etc.

She usually just has one at a time, although she had two for a while. She lives in the country, works on a farm, but I've only seen them in the house or in the garden. She definitely takes them out though.

 

[snadge]

We haven't decided that we don't want it now! And this barking at air is a fairly recent thing - he didn't use to do it. That's why I am asking for advice on how to stop it now!

Snadge - I wouldn't put it past my neighbours to report it, they like any excuse to bitch and moan about people and tbh I don't need the hassle - but thanks for the reassurance that we wouldn't have him taken off us!

the places you take him for exersise matter aswell, if you just let him off the lead in a big well kept park isn't going to exert him, there's nothing really he wants to chase, he'll annoy a few people and run after other dogs but he's bored.


sometimes a Jack Russell likes nothing better than being let off the lead in an old warehouse or disused factory wasteland, they're in their element, they love ratting, they chase and dig untill they are knackered, try altering his exrsise pattern to something the dog want's to do, I know it may sound a bit squeamish letting your little darling loose rat killing but that's what he'll thank you for in the end by being comfortable living with you.


and rats are yak anyway

 

[snadge]

She usually just has one at a time, although she had two for a while. She lives in the country, works on a farm, but I've only seen them in the house or in the garden. She definitely takes them out though.

yes the farms make a difference, bet they wander around proud as punch

 

[Mrs Magpie]

She doesn't live on one, she drives to work.

 

[snadge]

You could always get Miss Whiplash in

talking about wieberaners, now they are strange dogs, take them to open fields and sit and have spliffs and take photos, they run themselves to oblivion, takes a while though, they run everywhere and I mean run.

 

[snadge]

She doesn't live on one, she drives to work.

but they have free reign in her garden, she can let them out to sniffle and explore etc.

what pingu says is correct, he is making sure everyone knows where not to come, your nieghbours and every little bird that tries anything

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Is it possible that someone is teasing the dog when you arn't looking??? Unwanted barking is sometimes a symptom of that.

I would suggest taking the dog nearly everywhere you can. Get it used to odd experiences and it won't find them threatening and won't find the need to bark.

 

[Strumpet]

iroically one way to teach your dog to stop barking is to...
train them to bark on command
positive reinforcers will work 100 times better than negative ones in behavioural shaping like this.

Beat me to it.
This is how i was taught to train my terrier (a westie) ....Worked a treat for me.
I could be wrong but I'd say your dog feels he has to protect you all with his barking because he is top dog right now....would need to know more really......you can sort that out too...the pack order in your home.

 

[Rohen]

Jack russells are more likely to bite strangers.

They are hunting dogs...


But they bark like nothing else if they feel that their territory is under attack.

Sorry about the collar stuff it was the only thing I could think of as I really have no problem with my dog barking and she knows she's at the bottom of the pack.

 

[zenie]

Beat me to it.
This is how i was taught to train my terrier (a westie) ....Worked a treat for me.
I could be wrong but I'd say your dog feels he has to protect you all with his barking because he is top dog right now....would need to know more really......you can sort that out too...the pack order in your home.

Will post more soon...too late tonight.

Are you a dog trainer strumpet?

I get cautious of the word 'pack behaviour' sounds all too much like that nutty woman that tells you to ignore the dog when you come in

Do you just mean like Alpha or what?

 

[The Pious Pawn]

Ive used shock collars before but that was a different situation from you it was when we went to work an he was not house trained , He was locked in the kitchen an would go crazy an reck the place an he started to give the neighbours wife a head ache so i had to do something the shock collar sorted it in less than a hour with no side effects he is still a normal loving creature . I would guess you jack russel is barkin becuase he is excited you need to do things with him to stimulate him he is a workin breed creature an a bit more highly strung than a other types of dog !! plenty of exercise should get him on track , With luck ! . Or have the hose ready for in the garden a blast from that will shut him up ! .

 

[isvicthere?]

My Millie is four next month and we've had her three years. Our problem is we think she was badly treated by her first owners. She was very defensive and nervous when we first got her. We took her to training class and in most areas she has made great improvements. However, when I am walking her, she still always barks at other dogs. If in a park this is OK: I can let her off and she approaches the other dog to make friends. If in the street, I have to take her in the opposite direction. This is not too much of a problem, but we have been told the way to address it is to get a water pistol and shoot it at her when she barks. The confusion this causes will, we are told, make her stop barking, and after a while the "not barking" will become habit. Sounds like a plan.

Also, however, it should be remembered that dogs SHOULD sometimes bark, and that barking is not a sign of aggression (snarling and baring the teeth is). Usually barking is to warn the pack of something unforeseen (in ancestral behaviour this might have been a predator, or potential prey - now it's more likely to be the postman).

Hope this helps.

 

[isvicthere?]

The other thing is to get one of those collars and shock them if they bark

I think that's a bit cruel, but haven't tried water pistol yet.

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

The in-laws have a Springer Spaniel - he's a lovely mutt, really friendly, wouldn't hurt a fly, etc. The problem is that he's out of control, in your face all the time and barks incessantly in and out of the house - a high-pitched and piercing bark, which can become very wearing.

The in-laws have become immune and rather resigned to this - they don't seem to have the energy to train him. Fair enough if that's okay for them, although it has unfortunately resulted in their son declining to visit them with his baby daughter - the last (and only) time he did this, the dog was leaping all over her and barking in her face, which traumatised her.

 

[lizzieloo]

The in-laws have a Springer Spaniel - he's a lovely mutt, really friendly, wouldn't hurt a fly, etc. The problem is that he's out of control, in your face all the time and barks incessantly in and out of the house - a high-pitched and piercing bark, which can become very wearing.

The in-laws have become immune and rather resigned to this - they don't seem to have the energy to train him. Fair enough if that's okay for them, although it has unfortunately resulted in their son declining to visit them with his baby daughter - the last (and only) time he did this, the dog was leaping all over her and barking in her face, which traumatised her.

Why don't people just shut their dogs in another room when they have little folk come to stay. I think some people treat their pets like kids.

If my dog was doing that he'd be upstairs. I put him upstairs when kids visit, he's not used to kids so I have no idea if it'll be OK. He's fine, he just goes to sleep in the P&Q

 

[Pingu]

whilst I actually agree that some people take it too far with regards to their pets our situation isnt that dissimilar from the one mentioned


we have 5 large dogs and often various foster dogs


ours are very well trained but get very excited when people visit -they are dogs its how they are.

now our attitude is:

we have dogs, people know we have dogs, if you dont like the dogs... dont visit.

same re kids I am afraid, if your kid doesnt like having a tug rope or ball shoved at them to play with.. dont bring it round.

our house.. our rules.

likewise we dont take any of the dogs to friends who are not "doggie people" as thats their choice in their house

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Why don't people just shut their dogs in another room when they have little folk come to stay. I think some people treat their pets like kids.

Yeah, I think that's the trouble here. Even though they must be able to see that the dog's barking is causing problems, they sweep it under the carpet - as if addressing the issue would hurt his feelings. Apparently they tried to shut him in a room once when they had visitors, but they felt too guilty afterwards to do it again. They'll even give holidays a miss these days as they worry that the dog might get lonely in kennels.

The irony is that they used to have a dog that didn't make a fuss about anything and barked relatively rarely, so they didn't feel anywhere near the same level of guilt or sense of duty then. So I guess that again it's the same principle as with children - those who demand attention are the ones who tend to get it.

 

[zenie]

whilst I actually agree that some people take it too far with regards to their pets our situation isnt that dissimilar from the one mentioned


we have 5 large dogs and often various foster dogs


ours are very well trained but get very excited when people visit -they are dogs its how they are.

now our attitude is:

we have dogs, people know we have dogs, if you dont like the dogs... dont visit.

same re kids I am afraid, if your kid doesnt like having a tug rope or ball shoved at them to play with.. dont bring it round.

our house.. our rules.

likewise we dont take any of the dogs to friends who are not "doggie people" as thats their choice in their house

Pretty much the smae way I feel but then you knew that already.

Can be a good excuse to make a swift exit home - oooh I have to get back for the dog or no sorry I dont have anyone to look after her

 

[liberty]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!

Use one of these trainers

www.apdt.co.uk

You should only ever ever use a citronella (note not stunn or shock) in extreme circumstances when no amount of other training has done the trick

fuck fuck hope Pingu hasn't seen this or god help us all

You may be able to control the bark by teaching the dog to 'speak' and at one he still may be adaptable.

Please please dont use barbaric training methods, onc you've scolded, shocked, smacked, punched, kicked your dog what else is there left to do to the 'thing you love' in your life??

Good Luck (it is a jack russell after all and they are terriers so....)

A friend you the spray one as there dog never shut up.. It did no good at all and now the dog barks more than ever


Mouse is fantastic when she barks we say 'enough' and we do nopt hear another peep.. Mind you she only bark when very excited when playing

 

[hektik]

However, when I am walking her, she still always barks at other dogs. If in a park this is OK: I can let her off and she approaches the other dog to make friends. If in the street, I have to take her in the opposite direction. This is not too much of a problem, but we have been told the way to address it is to get a water pistol and shoot it at her when she barks. The confusion this causes will, we are told, make her stop barking, and after a while the "not barking" will become habit. Sounds like a plan.

thats the same problem with my dog - she wasn' socialised properly by her previous owners/had a traumatic experience with other dogs she gets nervous around other dogs and will bark when they approach, but generally stops when they get closer (although not all the time - black or little dogs tend to terrify her more, and she really hates puppies bouncing around her).


tried ignoring it - didnt work.
tried the water pistol thing - it didnt work really - the thing is that she was nervous and agitated and that was the reason she was barking..

the only thing that seems to be working (slowly) is when i see a dog approaching i say to her ' i reward good behaviour', and then immediately give her her a treat, saying ''good behaviour'.

then if she barks i get her to sit, (this seems to make her a bit clamer) then five seconds after she stops barking i say good behaviour again and give her another treat.

she still barks but the amount of time that she barks for is gradually decreasing - and she calms down much quicker.

she still doesnt like other dogs that take too much of an interest in her though....

 

[Hanfstaengl]

Threaten to throw the dog in The Roding