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How do employers check A-level grades / UCAS points?

My partner boosted a grade on his CV (got a D which he boosted to a B), and then went into a panic when he got offered a job with an American bank who employ a company specfically to do background and CV checks. They even wanted a urine sample FFS!

He didn't take a job and half the reason was worrying about getting caught out.

(Luckily found a better job with a more chilled out company!)
 
beeboo said:
My partner boosted a grade on his CV (got a D which he boosted to a B), and then went into a panic when he got offered a job with an American bank who employ a company specfically to do background and CV checks. They even wanted a urine sample FFS!

He didn't take a job and half the reason was worrying about getting caught out.

(Luckily found a better job with a more chilled out company!)

A urine sample? Not sure that's even legal in the UK... might be in the USA though.

And pretty much all banks/financial institutions will hire companies specifically to do the checks.
 
cv tip #36879

Keep getting qualifications unitl your A-levels are redundent - then start working on your bibliography - that's the way forward... :) :D
 
J77 said:
Keep getting qualifications unitl your A-levels are redundent - then start working on your bibliography - that's the way forward... :) :D

Some employers will want all education checked, irrespective of how old it is or many other qualifications you have.
 
the B said:
A urine sample? Not sure that's even legal in the UK... might be in the USA though.

And pretty much all banks/financial institutions will hire companies specifically to do the checks.
Lots of uk companies require a piss test from regular employees - I don't know that the law would be different for potential candidates.
 
spanglechick said:
Lots of uk companies require a piss test from regular employees - I don't know that the law would be different for potential candidates.

Don't think they can fire you if you don't give one (unless you have signed away your rights in the contract or something, valid cases being say medical experimentation).

There aren't many genuine reasons employers can ask for urine tests.
 
Found this at

http://www.jrf.org.uk/knowledge/findings/foundations/694.asp

I expect the companies that are most likley to do drugs testing will be US owned. But is unclear whether they do this to all their employees.

I did have a friend who got a job but subsequently failed the drugs test and was told to get on his bike. That wacky baccy stays in the system for weeks, apparently.

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The law
The legal position on drug testing at work is confused. There is no direct legislation and important legal questions hinge on interpretation of a range of provisions in health and safety, employment, human rights and data protection law. The main principles behind the current legal and self-regulatory provisions appear to be as follows:

* that people are entitled to a private life;
* that employers are required to look to the safety of the public;
* that people are entitled to dignity;
* that people are entitled to proper quality standards for evidence used against them in court or disciplinary proceedings.

These are emerging issues for jurisprudence and there has, to date, been little case law on drug testing arising from the Human Rights Act 1998 and the Data Protection Act 1998. Some of the issues have been clarified to some degree with the publication by the Information Commissioner of the consultation draft of Part 4 of the Employment Practices Data Protection Code in November 2003 (Information Commissioner, 2003). The Information Commissioner is responsible for the implementation of the Data Protection Act. According to the Commissioner's draft Code, the legitimacy of drug testing will depend on showing that there are health and safety concerns and on providing evidence of real (not assumed) impairment of performance.

Trends and trajectories
A MORI poll was conducted on behalf of the IIDTW in 2003. Over 200 companies were surveyed, of which 4 per cent conducted drug tests and a further 9 per cent said that they were likely to introduce tests in the next year. In addition, 78 per cent said that they would be more likely to test if they believed that drug or alcohol use was affecting performance or productivity. Overall numbers might seem comparatively low on the MORI findings, but this is highly misleading. If 4 per cent of businesses are drug testing this will affect hundreds of thousands of employees. If the 9 per cent of businesses who told MORI that they were likely to introduce testing in the next year do so, then this trebles the proportion of UK businesses testing over a 12-month period.

The IIDTW was not able to establish the extent of drug testing at work or the overall trends to its own satisfaction, with other surveys producing different figures to the MORI poll, largely reflecting the differences in their respective samples.

A major expansion of drug testing at work, while far from inevitable, is now a genuine possibility. The North American experience shows how rapidly drug testing at work can expand, with testing in the US developing into a multi-billion dollar industry since the 1980s. There is evidence that increasing numbers of British employers are identifying drug and alcohol use as a problem for them. There is a lack of evidence to suggest that drug and alcohol use is in fact having a serious and widespread effect on the workplace in modern Britain. There is a need for continued monitoring of trends and trajectories.
 
These UCAS points have to be the biggest lad of centralised, Stalinist crap , the latest offering from our good old government's screwed up levelling dystopian attitude towards education.

Rant yes but here's a good one.

My friend applied for several jobs but was turned down for being short on UCAS points. He got something like BBC at A level. But here's the thing, his A Levels were in Maths, Physics and Economics, not the easiest subjects. However this means FA now becuase an A in a doss A level is worth mre than a B in a harder subject. Incientally he was rejected from several applications because of this numbers game and then graduated with a first before deciding to study for a masters at UCL.

So moral of the story: govt's educational policy is shite, study easy subjects, get loads of points and you'll be the perfect prodcut of the syste,: well qualified but know sod-all.

Education Education, Education (UCAS points, tuition fees, interpersonal skills)
 
From what ive heard, once you have experience in any field , the following employer does not look at the qualification alone, the experience he is more concerned with,

Getting a job without any experience after a degree is not easy aless you goto Oxford or Cambridge and want to work in the financial sector,.

Working in the public sector there more down to earth from experience ive heard.
 
lobster said:
From what ive heard, once you have experience in any field , the following employer does not look at the qualification alone, the experience he is more concerned with,

Depends on the job. For example, if you're applying for a science/engineering job...

Getting a job without any experience after a degree is not easy aless you goto Oxford or Cambridge and want to work in the financial sector,.

No, you still need experience. Oxbridge may have everyone on AAA. But it's funny how so many don't get a first or an upper second... and even then, how many just don't have the personality for a real job and holding it down.
 
polo said:
Indeed, employers are seldom honest about just how crap a job is likely to be. It should be a two way street.

It's not the employers you cheat, it's the more capable but honest people who don't get an interview because your cv looked better. Lying is lying is lying.
 
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