merlin wood said:
Total rubbish. It's far, far too many physicists, especially, who are stuck in an indetrerminate world view as result of the Copenhagen type interpretation that really doesn't make sense.
See also the collection of papers called Speakable and unspeakable in quantum mechanics by John Stuart Bell CUP, (2004).
...And, in fact, physicists are so stuck in this indeterminate world view, that has become part of the forml language of orthodox quantum mechanics and theory that they often also refuse to countenance or ignore reasonable determinate arguments.
These attitudes are understandable to the extent that the directly detectable experimental evidence is of objects that can be described as possessing behaviour that is quite unlike any that can be observed of large scale objects, and that there are inherent uncertainties in measuring and predicting this behavious that cannot be explained as effects caused by the known properties of any of the forces.
And then you can think that if there is any cause that acts in addition to the forces that would produce
the quantum behaviour then this would need to be quite unlike any of the forces in that it could not be described as pushing or pulling objects and so would have no measurable strength where it would act at a distance.
Whereas all other physics is concerned with such push or pull causes and the 'Standard Model' of quantum theory has been developed without describing any properties of any further cause to the forces. Although you can conclude that this Model can account for everything about matter and the energy it radiates except how these can exist and persist in their various and particular forms given just the known properties of the forces. And so you can only think that these smallest or least massive of all known parts of matter nd energy are, somehow, self-organising and despite the action of the forces.
But the general point about quantum physics and the mind is this: From the physics you can reasonably think that if there was a cause acting in addition to the forces then this would somehow act so that matter remains organised out of its subatomic parts. So that such would be a cause that produce the the otherwise inexplicable wave and spin behaviour of thsse subatomic components, as well as the entangled relationships at a distance that have been described in quantum mechanics as occurring between these objects.
So could such an invisible cause also somehow produce consciousness in living organisms? Could this be the solution to the age old mystery of how the mind and consciouness naturally occurs?
And if this is so, one can think that no human made machine could produce anything like the intelligence of organisms that have acquired their concsiousness only as the result of a natural evolution made possible by the action of an immaterial cause that can maintain the natural form and organisation of their bodies.
