How are we going to get rid of Kate Hoey

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ash, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    This was lurking on a pro-remain Trot site. Amongst many others from Labour Leave etc labelled "more fifth columnists"
     
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  2. happyshopper

    happyshopper Well-Known Member

    ... and handguns.
     
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  3. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    One of the people who apparently is running for Vauxhall, Laura Parker is one of the leaders for the Saturday protests
     
  4. ash

    ash Inittogether

    And today ....... she stands up and openly supports Johnson !?!
     
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  5. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    She was formidably vitriolic on Sky News Tuesday am. Clearly thinks anybody not a no-dealer is a wimp.
     
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  6. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Bloody hell
     
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  7. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I'm livid at Hoey. She now supports Johnson.

    She is a disgrace. I've looked at her Twitter and its bile directed at those who oppose No Deal and any form of Irish nationalism. However mild. Loads directed at the Eire government. She really hates Irish nationalism.

    As a friend of mine from NI said she behaves like typical DUP politician.

    Maybe she is thinking of standing as a DUP candidate? After all Enoch Powell found a home in NI. She is another anti immigration Brexit supporter so could follow in the shoes of Enoch.

    Corbyn has had an awful lot of criticism over Brexit. I feel for the guy. As a Remainer I think he has steered a middle way between all the different factions amongst the Labour MPs. The LDs haven't had to deal with this. The Greens have anti EU section.

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    Northern Irelanzd-born MP Hoey hints she could stand in next election but not for Labour - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

    Hoey has over last few years totally ignored the people who voted for her. Corbyn has attempted to have a Brexit that straddles leavers and Remainers. As CH1 says Hoey position is that any any compromise is for wimps.Its the fuck you you lost arguement. Trouble is she is elected to represent people who overwhelming voted Remain.

    I can't express how angry I am at an inner London MP having her position.

    I think she should fuck off back to Northern Ireland.

    The sooner she goes the better.

    She is anti Irish bigot. She gets into bed with Farage and the worst parts of the Tory party.

    Yet she gets little criticism on the left as she is Brexit.

    Nauseating .
     
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  8. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    She is revelling in going against Corbyn and supporting Boris.

     
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  9. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I now think she should have the Labour whip withdrawn from her. She can spend the rest of her days as an MP on her own.

    Whilst she decides what party she wants to represent.

    And what kind of people she wants to represent. I do think she would be better off in the DUP. More represents what she believes in.
     
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  10. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Looks like there may be a General Election shortly anyway. The anti no deal MPs are trying to legislate against Boris's 31st October crash-out. Once that is done it will be a very acrimonious election no doubt.

    Interesting to see how Boris's abusive behaviour plays in election. It might put people off and keep them at home.

    It's one thing standing for Mayor as a buffoon - quite another standing for PM as a neo Nazi.
     
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  11. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    If No deal is got through parliament and election is called Boris ( and Hoey) will see this as the people versus the establishment election.

    My disagreement with Hoey is that she is MP for one of the most Remain areas (and they aren't all middle class).

    Outside London and its a different story.

    So Boris is in with a chance if election happens.

    Funnily enough Corbyn , who is berated as loony left , has been trying to go for a compromise Brexit. Its not working as a strategy. The country is so divided that any middle ground way is not getting support.

    The media is so hostile to him on some matters but on a compromise Brexit he is still getting stick from media.
     
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  12. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Currently watching the House of Lords live at 12.45 am on Thursday - they are supposedly processing the House of Commons bill on stopping the no deal Brexit. Their Lords behaviour, whilst polite, hardly gives confidence they are in touch with reality.

    Maybe with the Queen, Prorogation and Lords obstruction wholesale constitutional reform needs to be a priority.
    Lest we forget Mussolini and Victor Emmanuel III pushed the Italian people too far

    Mussolini_e_Petacci_a_Piazzale_Loreto,_1945.jpg
     
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  13. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    god, I'm not the only super-sad fucker
     
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  14. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Back to Kate - they then showed Foreign Office Questions feat. Dominic Raab from 3rd September.
    There was a curious exchange about Zimbabwe.

    Kate wanted government action about Mnangagwa who was treating the people of Zimbabwe appallingly she said.
    Nicholas Soames - lately sacked from the Tory party - was concerned that this did not effect aid given to the education sector in Zimbabwe, which Soames said was vital for the welfare of the country.

    Weird to hear Kate Hoey the battle ace vs Nicholas Soames now ex-Tory liberal.
     
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  15. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Kate, to her credit does regularly raise Zimbabwe
     
  16. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Well Zimbabwe is a long way away.

    On Ireland her views are reactionary. No understanding of why some people in Northern Ireland might want a untied Ireland. No understanding of the way historically Unionism is deeply resented by a large amount of Irish people who live in Northern Ireland.
     
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  17. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Oh I think she knows, she just doesn't care.

    I met a guy from Belfast recently, who's not Labour and he said that as far as he could tell, back in the day, she was actually quite good on cross community stuff for the time (1980s) and only has gone/reverted to her DUP style beliefs in recent years.
     
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  18. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Current Lambeth Mayor Ibrahim Dogus throw his hat in the ring for Vauxhall
    Ibrahim Dogus: Why I want to be the next Labour MP for Vauxhall

    Seems like an improvement if he gets it. Curiously Dogus almost succeeded in taking Cities of Westminster & London last time against the aggressive Tory who put the Green lady in a headlock a few weeks ago in the city's Guildhall dinner.

    Labour made a bit of a booboo IMHO swapping Dogus for a flamoyant vicar who seems to specialise in getting bad publicity in the Daily Mail.

    Still Soho's loss might be Vauxhall's gain (though if I were in Vauxhall I would vote for the sensible looking Lib Dem lady with an interest in Social Housing)
     
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  19. ash

    ash Inittogether

    Apologies taken straight from John O’Farrells Twitter:

    Delighted that @emily4vauxhall has applied to be our next Labour MP for Vauxhall. She would make a great MP and is a unifying candidate, having been chair of the constituency through some difficult years. (Also, she would never go on a boat with Nigel Farage.)

    She seems Ok on first glance
     
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  20. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

     
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  21. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    List of officers in Vauxhall Labour party:

    https://vauxhall.laboursites.org/clp/

    Dogus and Emily are both officers.

    I don't have a clue what their politics are. Do they support Corbyn?

    My problem with long standing officers getting shoe in as candidates is what happened in Coldharbour Ward.

    Our two new Cllrs have zero track record in community pollitcs. They have loads in being long standing party members.

    Why Coldharbour Ward gets two new Cllrs who I've never heard of.

    As local community person I know said to me the Labour party is separate from local community issues.

    We live in same community but have parallel lives.

    As a party of the working class the Labour party still does not have organic relationship with local community.
     
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  22. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    So what's happened to Laura Parker?
     
  23. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I've listened to her pitch to be the candidate for Vauxhall. Its a load of waffle.

    Nothing about Corbyn or whether she supports New Labour. No view on Lambeth Council.

    Just a load of stuff about how she is a successful business woman and doesnt like the Tories.

    No content.

    Comes across as centre ground.

    I could see LD doing the same video.

    This is so not what I want to see.

    I want to see the real differences , the politics and how to get there if in power.

    Her broadcast comes across as the middle way don't scare off the middle class voters line.

    The LDs are doing a better job on that.
     
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  24. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    I heard Laura was being considered for Streatham (maybe heard it on u75)
     
  25. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    Claire Holland has applied to be the new Vauxhall candidate.

     
  26. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Enfield North apparently
     
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  27. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    And according to Twitter this morning, Enfield Momentum and it's members are super unhappy about her parachuting herself in.

    So she may well not succeed in her attempt for selection
     
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  28. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    And now Lord Adonis apparently is joining the race.
     
  29. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    So I see. I thought this was a joke but no its for real.

    Do you have any idea why he's doing this?

    He has a political position as a Lord. So its not like he has no power.
     
  30. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Your guess is as good as mine.

    The theory I've heard is that he doesn't expect to win but he's using it as a publicity stunt
     
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