How are we going to get rid of Kate Hoey

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ash, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    See my post 326 on the issue.
  2. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    The occasional litter officers that the Council send out to for "low hanging fruit". Basically Joe Blogs.

    When it comes down to more serious fly tipping the Council is useless.

    They haven't the resources to deal with it. Its a problem in LJ.

    So Council go for occasional fining people outside the Tube. Its just for show.
  3. Southlondon

    Southlondon The river's there for a reason

    There’s no such thing as a ‘litter officer’ in Lambeth. They are enforcement officers who spend the majority of their working hours dealing with fly toppers and illegal street traders etc. Occasionally they will e deployed to littering hotspots which have been flagged up by residents complaints to provide a uniformed deterrent and to educate and enforce against littering. If litter laws weren’t enforced some people would be quite happy to drop their crap on the pavement without a second thought. It’s like did fouling. Most dog walkers are responsible and clear up rafter their animals, but others don’t and this is a major issue believe it or not in terms of reside complaints. Littering operations are only occasional and not conducted by dedicated ‘littering enforcement officers ‘ as you seem to believe. They are targeted in response to complaints. It’s not a case of low hanging fruit or easy targets, it’s because a lot of people don’t like to shuffle through the detritus left by inconsiderate people not using bins. As stated already it’s not a fine it’s an FPN - an opportunity to pay a fixed amount like a parking ticket to avoid getting a fine. Easily avoided by using bins. You’re so anti- the council you see conspiracy every where you look
  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    That's good to hear.

    As Ive been criticised twice recently for not being anti- Council enough.

    My view on Labour Councils being subject to big cuts by the Tories being one. Hasn't gone down well here.
  5. Southlondon

    Southlondon The river's there for a reason

    Some people need to try living or working in a Tory/libdem borough and then they would see the contrast in how they execute the cuts in line with their priorities. I appreciate you are more informed and pragmatic about this than some other posters on urban, and it is absolutely true that the decision to impose austerity upon local authorities was taken by the libdems and the tories in partnership, and this has cut the council funding almost in half. It’s those bastards that are responsible for the reduction in services and yet some people moan about revenue generating events in parks not being free,or libraries being kept open by pairing them with gyms ( fit in mind fit in body and vice Versa I personally think it’s a brilliant idea), or working in partnership with local residents to keep adventure playgrounds open etc when the alternatives are to close those services as Tory and libdem boroughs have done without any efforts to keep them open. I’m the first one to criticise the dominant labour group in the council for their blairitte ways, however I’m doing my bit in the party to build the left so we can select more left wing candidates for the next election which is the best way to change the direction of the council and push it to the left. people that want to have a more left wing council would be better placed adding their numbers and efforts to the left resistance in Lambeth labour than wasting time in the greens who showed they weren’t lefties at all when they controlled Birmingham and Brighton councils, or irrelevant little left wing grouplets that achieve absolutely Jack shit.
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  6. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    She's not seeking reselection for the next election:

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  7. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    So any riders and runners to be the new Labout candidate?

    I would have thought Ibrahim Dogus must be itching to stand.
    At least his Mayor's chairites are a bit more outward looking than Tally Ho Kate's little England world view:
    Ibrahim Dogus, who has been elected mayor of the London borough in 2019/20 and will take office on 22 May 2019, selected the Migration Museum and Refugees Welcome Lambeth as his two chosen charities during his tenure as mayor, as part of a thematic focus on refugees and immigrants.
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  8. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    Amy Lamė ?
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  9. happyshopper

    happyshopper Well-Known Member

    Almost certain to be an all-woman short-list.
  10. sleaterkinney

    sleaterkinney Well-Known Member

    Good Riddance, perhaps she can get a job alongside Widdicome and her mate Nigel.
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  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    Bet she's elevated to the lords
  12. sleaterkinney

    sleaterkinney Well-Known Member

    I presume you're talking about Carnegie, where they spent 3 million excavating the basement of a grade II listed library then handed it over rent free to a private company until 2023?
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  13. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    That's what I heard too, last year, but was speaking to a Labour mate about this and they're no longer so sure if that'll happen.

    Anyway, if it is All Woman Shortlist, I wonder if the Labour MEP 4th placed person, Laura Parker (iirc) will stand. She's Vauxhall based and seems to be a cross between loyal Momentum and Remainer/Another Europe is Possible
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  14. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    If it's open to men, then agree Dogus must be itching for a go. He ran nearby in 17 after all and has done a lot of work on raising his profile locally and in Labour.
    Maybe his ward mate, Kevin as well? I remember his name being bandied about a couple of years back when he was Hoey's agent.
    Then there surely will be a few high profile men from neighbouring boroughs or across London who'd like a shot.
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  15. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    See the Twitter response to her letter of resignation suggests she finds a new career in the Brexit party.

    Backing the Farage wing of Brexit was her undoing.
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  16. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Yes Laura Parker is both Corbyn supporter and Remain.

    Labour members know what we need: a referendum and a campaign for remain | Laura Parker

    All the people I know who joined or rejoined the Labour party due to Corbyn in Lambeth are Remain.

    They are opposed to return of Blairities to run national party. But also opposed Brexit.

    As a non Labour member the I see Brexit as a tragedy.

    Its a possible scenario that this country might get a Boris Brexit. The end result being the entrenching of the "Free market" ideology under Boris plus the ending of the Corbyn experiment and return to the "middle ground" for the Labour party.

    All those who felt disenfranchised one way or the other will end up with nothing.

    IMO that tosser Chuka should have stayed in Labour party and stuck it out. Him being part of the so called centre ground.
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  17. Southlondon

    Southlondon The river's there for a reason

    That’s one of them yes. It’s how Lambeth has managed to keep all its libraries open when other boroughs have closed lots of theirs
  18. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    You are Gym Dickson AICMFP
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  19. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    Managed to bugger up the simple instructions on the form to tick one box
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  20. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    Should still leave her plenty of free time to polish her little mini.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2019
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  21. happyshopper

    happyshopper Well-Known Member

    It seems I was wrong about this. The formal selection process hasn’t started yet and until it does you can join the party and take part in the vote. Link here I just joined the Labour Party – will you too?
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  22. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    This charming piece written for SLP 5/7/19 is classic Hoey. Goodbye old friend!
    Worried as ever about what the horses are going to eat under the Hackney Carriages Act, she nevertheless notes the interest of RMT - the black cab owners union.

    I don't like Uber either - but my rationale is I would object to paying a licensing fee to an American mega corporation just to have a taxi ride. That said it appears that Uber support Linux the free software people.

    What a crazy mixed-up world we live in.
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  23. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Someone on the Lambeth for Europe Facebook group is speculating that Kate may defect to the Brexit party.
    Might make for an interesting general election - when and if it comes.
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  24. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Surely she will just retire and then campaign for no deal now via the media
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  25. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Out of interest I looked to see if she had supported Mays deal.

    No she didn't.

    She voted along with her Unionist Northern Ireland mates against it.

    So she is not just Pro Brexit she is of what is euphemistically called the Leave Means Leave lot.

    She all along wanted a hard Brexit. The Unionist patriotic flag waver waver she has shown herself to be.

    Well that is my impression from all I've read of what she has said.

    She never wanted a compromise deal.
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  26. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    The thing about Hoey supporting Brexit is that she always meant No deal Brexit.

    That was underlying whole sections of the UKIP / Brexit party/ Tory right/ Hard left.

    The vote for them was just the beginning.

    The fact that leave could mean many different things was not part of their project.
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  27. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Its why you never hear sections of the left criticise Hoey. Despite her reactionary views on the Union and Britishness.
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  28. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    These are good points.

    I don't dislike Hoey - she's always been ok with me when we've talked or otherwise interacted, but her Brexit position is mad. She's by all appearances, been fully signed up to the hardest No Deal version for a while now. Always retweeting Brexit Party or ERG Conservatives.

    There's no reason why she needs to resile from her vote or preference but she has never shown any interest in working with Vauxhall or Remainers to get them on side. It's all biased BBC this, Brexit Party is right about Irish Border that (see video!), why doesn't Labour get out of London - to metropolitan elite! (despite being a London MP who's lived here for 40-50 years).

    She's absolutely on board with whatever hard right US style Libertarian bullshit the new Johnson administration puts forward as it's all secondary to Brexit.
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  29. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    According to Vauxhall Labour Twitter, Labour's NEC has said selection to replace Hoey will not be All Women Shortlist as expected but will instead be open to men.

    Apparently, according to Twitter, this means Mr Dogus gets the nod.

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  30. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    and hunting
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