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How are we going to get rid of Kate Hoey

ash

Inittogether
Considering her Brexit stance and the pictures of her on the boat with Farage- who is planning to use the election to get rid??? She's been re-selected.
The Tories won't get in at Vauxhall so should Labour voters use their to vote get KATE out. The obvious party to get her out are the lib dems but that's Tim 'homophobia' Farron. What would you do??
 

Beetlebum

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The Tory vote in Vauxhall has actually been building over the last few elections. Last time they got 27 percent of the vote.

Still an awful long way back and a long shot but if you are looking for an "anyone but Hoey" vote that's the way to go.
 
Considering her Brexit stance and the pictures of her on the boat with Farage- who is planning to use the election to get rid??? She's been re-selected.
The Tories won't get in at Vauxhall so should Labour voters use their to vote get KATE out. The obvious party to get her out are the lib dems but that's Tim 'homophobia' Farron. What would you do??
I'm not a big fan of Tim Farron, but he has consistently voted in favour of gay rights over the last few years and has finally come out and said he doesn't think being gay is a sin. The local candidate, George Turner, is a decent housing campaigner and seems like a nice chap.

George Turner Our Candidate for Parliament - The Vauxhall Liberal Democrats

Seeing as Labour haven't been able to deselect her I think the LibDems are the best choice - voting for yet another Tory will just bolster the Hard Brexit tory government.
 

Beetlebum

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Betfair actually have the LibDems as second favourites , albeit a long way behind odds on Hoey.

That's quite remarkable when you consider they came fourth only two years ago.
 

ViolentPanda

Hardly getting over it.
Considering her Brexit stance and the pictures of her on the boat with Farage- who is planning to use the election to get rid??? She's been re-selected.
The Tories won't get in at Vauxhall so should Labour voters use their to vote get KATE out. The obvious party to get her out are the lib dems but that's Tim 'homophobia' Farron. What would you do??

Although I'm not in Hoey's constituency, I have been watching the "fun and games" as elements of her constituency party have maneuvered to make her tenure untenable, including emphasising the whole Brexit shambles over the decades of dedicated constituency work she's done. Bear in mind that there are members of her CLP looking at her seat covetously, and that most of them doing so are Progress members.
 

RoyReed

Must fly!
Even though she supported Brexit and is pro hunting I don't think she is especially right wing overall. ...
She's in favour of grammar schools and voted against a wholly elected house of lords. And she's voted against a right to remain for EU nationals living in the UK.
 
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ash

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I agree that she has been a solid approachable constituency MP. When my partner wrote to as many MPs and Lords as possible to express his concern prior to the WRB going through she actually phoned him up out of the blue and listened seeming sympathetic and aware.
The fox hunting thing has always been a wierd idiosyncrasy that I could live with but not Brexit especially as her constituancy is so pro Remain. From what I can see the lib dem candidate looks quite sound.




Although I'm not in Hoey's constituency, I have been watching the "fun and games" as elements of her constituency party have maneuvered to make her tenure untenable, including emphasising the whole Brexit shambles over the decades of dedicated constituency work she's done. Bear in mind that there are members of her CLP looking at her seat covetously, and that most of them doing so are Progress members.
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Beetlebum

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She's in favour of grammar schools and voted against a wholly elected house of lords. And she's voted against a right to remain for EU nationals living in the UK.
If it was me it would be last of the three that is the biggest issue. I'm a brexiteer and a Tory voter but i passionately feel those already here should be allowed to stay.

But it's not up to me.
 

DaveCinzano

WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I fear that in reality the Jack Boot will be on the other foot.



In the next few weeks she'll be sending her packs out to cleanse her constituency of lowlife like you. They don't call her "Duterte" Hoey for nothing!
If she's not careful she's going to be facing radicalised foxes wearing bomb pelts
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
That would be "friendly fire". If anyone is even more annoying than Katie it is Dr Fox.

The NHS presumably spend thousands training this dilettante fantasist as a GP. He then tried a spot of army medial service before finding a more worthy public calling in a safe West Country Tory parliamentary seat. Since then he has distinguished himself by getting involved in discussions with the Sri Lankan government regarding their genocidal civil war - much to the disgust of Tamils everywhere.

Despite his loose canon activities in opposition Call Me Dave appointed him Minister of Defence in 2010, but he had to resign because his friend Mr Werrity was accompanying him on foreign trips for no apparent reason.

What better person could we have to sort out British trade post Brexit?
 

redsquirrel

This Machine Kills Progressives
Yeah, just ignore all that history. What does people being pushed into poverty, the transfer of wealth from poor to rich, the attacks on the welfare state matter compared to supporting the EU. You fucking mug.
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Yeah, just ignore all that history. What does people being pushed into poverty, the transfer of wealth from poor to rich, the attacks on the welfare state matter compared to supporting the EU. You fucking mug.
According to this article in the Independent all three Lambeth MPs failed to vote against the latest Welfare cuts Bill in July 2015.

Apparently pro EU Labour and anti EU Labour = Tory welfare cuts
 

redsquirrel

This Machine Kills Progressives
Have I advocated a Labour vote?

That said while I disagree with it quite strongly, there's at least a certain logic to the position advocated by Jeff Robinson
I hear where you're coming from, but I can't help but think that you're not seeing the wood for the trees. This election is not about the individual candidates, its about the leadership of Corbyn vs the leadership of May. A Labour loss (the likely outcome admittedly) will be seen overwhelmingly as the failure of the Corbyn leadership (not of the anti-Corbyn MPs) and this in turn will be seen as a failure of socialist/social democratic ideas and the incontrovertible reality of neo-liberalism/TINA.
There's no such reason for voting LibDem. The only reason for voting LibDems is because you support the current neo-liberal agenda but want to pretend that you're really a progressive. Or that you're just really fucking naive.
 
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Winot

I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
The best way to achieve a socialist utopia is to call wavering voters fucking mug neoliberals. That's why the left has been so successful at winning elections in the UK.
 

Gramsci

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Have I advocated a Labour vote?

That said while I disagree with it quite strongly, there's at least a certain logic to the position advocated by Jeff Robinson

There's no such reason for voting LibDem. The only reason for voting LibDems is because you support the current neo-liberal agenda but want to pretend that you're really a progressive. Or that you're just really fucking naive.
As I know CH1 I think you are being a bit harsh. Whilst CH1 is a lifelong liberal rather than a socialist he's hardly one of the more recent "Orange book" liberals who have gone down the road of accepting neo liberalism. In fact his politics have put him to the left of the "Progress" dominated Lambeth Labour party.

I think what CH1 is saying is that the LD CA candidate has good track record and is worth supporting.

Hoey is a maverick. Her views on immigration are not that different from UKIP. In London that's not a view that is supported. Including working class Londoners.
 

redsquirrel

This Machine Kills Progressives
How exactly does someone who supports - the increase in VAT, the implementation of the bedroom tax, the tripling of HE fees etc - have a good record? If he had a good record this prick (Turner not CH1) would have left the LDs. He didn't so he supports those policies and if you vote for him you're supporting them.

There was no revolution against the Orange bookers when the coalition was started, there wasn't even any opposition, the whole party signed up and then proceeded to defend the attacks on the poor and the welfare state.

Hoey is scum, no doubt about that, but so is every LD politician/member.
 

Gramsci

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The best way to achieve a socialist utopia is to call wavering voters fucking mug neoliberals. That's why the left has been so successful at winning elections in the UK.
So far what Corbyn is advocating is far from a socialist utopia. Just imo pretty moderate proposals. For example rights for private renters.

The Liberal Democratic party helped the last Tory government. They are now positioning themselves as the pro EU party. Imo the LD leadership are neo liberals.
 
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