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Flavour said:
Well there was always a clear distinction between the Hip Hop produced on the West Coast and the East Coast (probably influenced by an entire range of factors), and whilst the East Coast can claim to have 'invented' the genre - the West Coast sound personified by the Egyptian Lover, The World Class Wreckin' Cru, The Arabian Prince, Ice T, Jamie Jupitor, Kid Frost, Chris 'The Glove' Taylor and the Unknown DJ (amongst others) remained 'electro sounding' for far longer than the East Coast (with constant references to Kraftwerk's 'Numbers' in particular) - and in many ways can be seen to exemplify the oft disputed fact that early House music would not have been possible without reference to Electro-Funk. East Coast sonic textures and adventures helped to pave the way for early House music.
And then there was some kid called Dr Dre.......................
BB
yeah, I may be wrong here, but I've always thought of house as being the slower, duller, cheesier stuff they play when people are just turning up at a club, before the night gets going and they put something a bit more stonking on.
100% truth.Blagsta said:
I feel sorry for people who say they don't like house music! I think they either haven't heard the right stuff, or have a block on it cos it's not hard and noisy. I too used to say I didn't like it, but now I let it in I feel happier and have more fun.
I love Chicago House music, Traxx records etc
It's the mother of all dance music. Everything else is just a derivative of it.
I dare to challenge peoples notions that house music was/is shit, most of the stuff that got filtered into the mainstream was absolutly terrible, you can't deny the early pioneers like Marshall Jefferson, Farley Jackmaster Funk, Todd Terry, Larry Heard etc
Sure most of the stuff they do now is utter pants, but they produced some amazing music back in the day. Respect!
It's the mother of all dance music. Everything else is just a derivative of it.
I dare to challenge peoples notions that house music was/is shit, most of the stuff that got filtered into the mainstream was absolutly terrible, you can't deny the early pioneers like Marshall Jefferson, Farley Jackmaster Funk, Todd Terry, Larry Heard etc
Sure most of the stuff they do now is utter pants, but they produced some amazing music back in the day. Respect!
I love house, me, but I'm becoming very disillusioned with the amount of absolute crap that is filling up the record shops these days. It makes buying good house records very hard indeed. These days it is very easy to produce a formulaic, sub-standard piece of music on a computer. I read somewhere in fact that there are about 250 dance records released each week. This obviously spans all genres, but house will take up a significant proportion of that.
Perhaps I've reached that stage where I've heard so much of it it fails to excite me any more but I'm not convinced that's the case.
There are also too many sub-genres of house…..as soon as something has a certain sound, people pigeon-hole it under a certain name. If it sounds good and it gets the girls (and boys) moving, then play it. There are too many blank expressions on dance floors these days (maybe I'm going to the wrong clubs but I was gutted at how bad the music was at Fabric on a Saturday last month).
But, house is constantly evolving and people will adapt. It's interesting how commercially accepted the electro sound has become lately, people say that Alter Ego's 'Rocker' was last year's "big tune" and this year Booka Shade's Mandarin Girl is meant to be the big Ibiza anthem. They're not bad songs but they're not superb and I personally wonder where the next change in direction will come from. I'm at risk of ranting now but I'd like to know if anyone else feels the same about our beloved house?
I can't remember the last time a DJ really did it for me…….Am I clinging on for hope that this will change one day?
Perhaps I've reached that stage where I've heard so much of it it fails to excite me any more but I'm not convinced that's the case.
There are also too many sub-genres of house…..as soon as something has a certain sound, people pigeon-hole it under a certain name. If it sounds good and it gets the girls (and boys) moving, then play it. There are too many blank expressions on dance floors these days (maybe I'm going to the wrong clubs but I was gutted at how bad the music was at Fabric on a Saturday last month).
But, house is constantly evolving and people will adapt. It's interesting how commercially accepted the electro sound has become lately, people say that Alter Ego's 'Rocker' was last year's "big tune" and this year Booka Shade's Mandarin Girl is meant to be the big Ibiza anthem. They're not bad songs but they're not superb and I personally wonder where the next change in direction will come from. I'm at risk of ranting now but I'd like to know if anyone else feels the same about our beloved house?
I can't remember the last time a DJ really did it for me…….Am I clinging on for hope that this will change one day?
pinkychukkles
Feed Your Head
There is good house being produced, you just have to look for it...a perhaps glib thing to say but yes I would agree it's difficult to find the diamonds amongst crap...but not impossible. I've just spunked another £53 I don't have on juno today on (mainly) deep house 
- DEGIORGIO, Kirk presents AS ONE: Elegant Systems (Versatile France)
- GLENN UNDERGROUND presents THE ENIGMA: Puzzle Project (Eargasmic US)
- HUNT, Gene/THE SUN GOD/K ALEXI/JARED WHEELER: Thoughts From Chigaco Vol 1 (Eargasmic US)
- UNDERGROUND, Glenn: Archives By Glenn Underground (Eargasmic US)
- UNDERGROUND, Glenn: Tech Jazz House (Headphoniq US)
and a techno twelve:
- Nico WTSVENTIN aka VINCE WATSON: The Final Techture EP (Superbra)
most has been released in the last few months, and it's all good Whereas before I had always been tracking down and buying old stuff (took delivery of a mint twelve of Inner City Big Fun yesterday) I suddenly decided to start using juno alot and buying *gasp* new stuff. The advantage of shopping online (in addition to being able to surreptitiously listen as work 
) is that I avoid any 'hard sell' that I seem to get in record shops plus they seem to get pissed off when they pull out 20+ records and I don't like any of them!
- DEGIORGIO, Kirk presents AS ONE: Elegant Systems (Versatile France)
- GLENN UNDERGROUND presents THE ENIGMA: Puzzle Project (Eargasmic US)
- HUNT, Gene/THE SUN GOD/K ALEXI/JARED WHEELER: Thoughts From Chigaco Vol 1 (Eargasmic US)
- UNDERGROUND, Glenn: Archives By Glenn Underground (Eargasmic US)
- UNDERGROUND, Glenn: Tech Jazz House (Headphoniq US)
and a techno twelve:
- Nico WTSVENTIN aka VINCE WATSON: The Final Techture EP (Superbra)
most has been released in the last few months, and it's all good
Whereas before I had always been tracking down and buying old stuff (took delivery of a mint twelve of Inner City Big Fun yesterday) I suddenly decided to start using juno alot and buying *gasp* new stuff. The advantage of shopping online (in addition to being able to surreptitiously listen as work ) is that I avoid any 'hard sell' that I seem to get in record shops plus they seem to get pissed off when they pull out 20+ records and I don't like any of them! 
chieftain
Mega Gammon
Djum Djum, Difference....... what a hot sticky summer fucking house tune
DJ Pierre's Phantasy Club, Phantasy girl........... phew another beauty
Renagade soundwave, The Phantom........ ahhh
Juan Atkins, Model 600........oooohhhhhhh
Rhythm is Rhythm..... oh oh oh my oh my
anything on murk records, Airgoose, old Nu Groove, Fast eddie, Transmat, metroplex, traxxs.
not sure if its the memories of the time, parties and goings on they hold for me but they still make me fell high as fuck when I listen to them at home now well over a decade or so later
I thank the Americans for inventing it but when I saw them play none of them could mix, Derck May, Todd Terry, Jack master funk, Juan Atkins etc included... the British guys like Evil eddie, Mr C, Layo, etc kicked all of there arses when it came to mixing
DJ Pierre's Phantasy Club, Phantasy girl........... phew another beauty
Renagade soundwave, The Phantom........ ahhh
Juan Atkins, Model 600........oooohhhhhhh
Rhythm is Rhythm..... oh oh oh my oh my
anything on murk records, Airgoose, old Nu Groove, Fast eddie, Transmat, metroplex, traxxs.
not sure if its the memories of the time, parties and goings on they hold for me but they still make me fell high as fuck when I listen to them at home now well over a decade or so later
I thank the Americans for inventing it but when I saw them play none of them could mix, Derck May, Todd Terry, Jack master funk, Juan Atkins etc included... the British guys like Evil eddie, Mr C, Layo, etc kicked all of there arses when it came to mixing
pinkychukkles
Feed Your Head
I feel your pain Bazza, I can't be arsed with the lottery that are 'clubs' these days; it never felt like a lottery for a good night years ago [dons rose tinted spectacles] when it seemed you could go to a night in some shitty bar somewhere with a crappy soundsystem yet because it was all so new, so fresh, you could strike sparks anywhere and you would have a blindin' time. I've been to Fabric, albeit once and over two years ago, shite music and the girl I was with got hassled by guys - seems from a recent thread on here that little has changed.Bazza said:
What has changed is that people seem to go out less nowadays because of the music but just to get munted for the sake of it and that's why you seem to get this sleazy atmosphere in some places. Basically, yes it's poor but yes you can do something about it, DiY is the way to go. I posted a thread up earlier this year about building my own soundsystem, it's still an ambition but unfortunately my financial situation took a turn for the worse and it will be just a distant ambition for the forseable future.
There are good nights out there but what with being a bit older, I don't go for all-nighters with the frequency like I used to, just because they take so much longer to recover from. That means when they do happen I want to be reasonably sure they're not going to be shit. Usually this means having a house party, the music is pretty much guaranteed to be something I like!
Keep on keepin' on!
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
Joey Youngman can be very good, specially when he's teching it up a bit. Labels like Casa Del Soul, Lowdown and Doubledown (all in the US) are worth checking, as are Spettro (artist), Da Sunlounge (artist), Brique Rouge (French label)... erm... dunno. I feel Bazza's pain too - it's got humungously difficult to find stuff with a bit of spark in it, though that's probably good for my finances tbh...
pinkychukkles said:
This is all true and is something I'd love to do too but, like you, finances prevent me. Plus I'm lazy! Watch this space though.....I'd be seriously gutted if, in my twighlight years, I didn't have a proper stab at DJing.
Anyway, you're spot on about the getting muntered point....We've all been there but for me the music comes first.
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
Oh yeah and High Blunted, Gourmet and Blunted Funk (all US labels) have done some pretty different stuff recently. imo obviously. Specially like that track by DJ Mes on Big Popsicle records 4 (which is related to Blunted Funk obviously)
erm... Oh... I've gone all trainspottery ... well good - somebody's got to stop checking all the big obvious stuff.
erm... Oh... I've gone all trainspottery ... well good - somebody's got to stop checking all the big obvious stuff.
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