Hour Silence for the 40,000 dead in Iraq

[chegrimandi]

I'd like an hour long silence for the 40,000 (conservative estimate) killed in Iraq tmw at noon. Please could someone email our betters and masters at the BBC, 10 Downing Street, the House of Commons and Buckingham Palace to ensure this happens or I won't be able to think about them properly.

Ta.

 

[Pickman's model]

if the going rate's about a minute for 25 dead, then you're looking at a considerably longer silence than an hour.

 

[Fruitloop]

How about a vow of silence?

 

[Pickman's model]

about 26 hours 40 mins...

 

[maomao]

if the going rate's about a minute for 25 dead, then you're looking at a considerably longer silence than an hour.

Call it a minute per 40 (70-80 dead and it's easy to divide by 40,000) and your looking at 16 hours plus.

Good idea, I'm with you.

 

[Termite Man]

if the going rate's about a minute for 25 dead, then you're looking at a considerably longer silence than an hour.

Surely Princess Di set the mark for silence lengths with 2 minutes per person ! I don't think I could be silent for 80,000 minutes

 

[chegrimandi]

Surely Princess Di set the mark for silence lengths with 2 minutes per person ! I don't think I could be silent for 80,000 minutes

shame on you she was da kween of arts she was

 

[Pickman's model]

shame on you she was da kween of arts she was

shurely "queen of tarts"?

 

[chegrimandi]

shurely "queen of tarts"?

BLASPHEMY! TO THE TOWER!

 

[editor]

I'd like an hour long silence for the 40,000 (conservative estimate) killed in Iraq tmw at noon. Please could someone email our betters and masters at the BBC, 10 Downing Street, the House of Commons and Buckingham Palace to ensure this happens or I won't be able to think about them properly.
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What about all the other people dying in wars and conflict around the globe?

Why are you being selective?

Don't you care about those dying in Africa etc etc?

 

[chegrimandi]

What about all the other people dying in wars and conflict around the globe?

Why are you being selective?

Don't you care about those dying in Africa etc etc?

could you be a bit more exact about where people are dying in Africa please I think saying 'people are dying in Africa' is pandering to stereotypes of Africa as a sick continent....

 

[Pickman's model]

What about all the other people dying in wars and conflict around the globe?

Why are you being selective?

Don't you care about those dying in Africa etc etc?

perhaps you might like to start threads for silences for those other worthy causes.

it's probably a good idea not to muddy the waters too much on this thread.

 

[Pickman's model]

Surely Princess Di set the mark for silence lengths with 2 minutes per person ! I don't think I could be silent for 80,000 minutes

the minute's been devalued since 1997.

 

[warszawa]

I'd like an hour long silence for the 40,000 (conservative estimate) killed in Iraq tmw at noon. Please could someone email our betters and masters at the BBC, 10 Downing Street, the House of Commons and Buckingham Palace to ensure this happens or I won't be able to think about them properly.

Ta.

Source for the figure please.

 

[FreddyB]

Source for the figure please.

Guns and bombs mostly

 

[Sorry.]

Source for the figure please.

why? you think it's wrong?

 

[warszawa]

Guns and bombs mostly

Good one

 

[maomao]

Source for the figure please.

Isn't that the official army estimate sort of thing. I'll find you a source for nearly 3 times that if you want.

 

[butchersapron]

"The Lancet report is the most comprehensive study of Iraqi civilian deaths since 2003 currently available" - And makes it 100 000.

http://www.casi.org.uk/briefing/041101lancetpmos.html

 

[warszawa]

why? you think it's wrong?

I've seen lots of figures banded about on this.

 

[akirajoel]

Sorry if this pisses anyone off:

but the logical conclusion of this thread is that we should just ban 'silences' (or whatever you want to all them).

I observe them and pay respect to them but they're a stupid idea.

People die in awful ways across the globe everyday...

Etc.

Etc.

 

[maomao]

I've seen lots of figures banded about on this.

I think he's used the lowest generally touted figure in order to avoid the thread turning into this exact argument.

 

[Sorry.]

I've seen lots of figures banded about on this.

Right, in that case decide which one you're most convinced by and stop derailing this thread.

 

[warszawa]

Right, in that case decide which one you're most convinced by and stop derailing this thread.

Oh fuck off. One man's 'derail' is another man's journey.

 

[treelover]

AFAIK, the minutes silence began in 1918 as a time for reflection and to try and understand/comprehend the catastrophe of WW1 and the almost unimagineable(for then) industrial scale carnage of that event. I think such minutes silences should be respected and limited. However, while i think that today's silence was a justified one, overall it has been devalued by the state sponsored cry-athons we seem to have all the time


'the minute's been devalued since 1997.'

 

[chegrimandi]

Oh fuck off. One man's 'derail' is another man's journey.

so whats your figure then?

 

[warszawa]

"The Lancet report is the most comprehensive study of Iraqi civilian deaths since 2003 currently available" - And makes it 100 000.

http://www.casi.org.uk/briefing/041101lancetpmos.html

Yeah, but we all know that's bollocks, though.

 

[editor]

I think saying 'people are dying in Africa' is pandering to stereotypes of Africa as a sick continent....

Only your stereotypes by the sound of it.

 

[chegrimandi]

anyway so my point being why do we not have a silence for these dead? Innocent victims most of them. Some of them our soldiers - some of them children, mothers, fathers, grandparents.

Why would we not mourn the passing of these innocents? Is it because we would have to look at who has killed them and why?

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah, but we all know that's bollocks, though.

Do we?

edit: Actually fuck it. Just looked at some of your other posts. Timewaster.