Hostel - bloody hell!
- Thread starter PacificOcean
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i thought it was absolutely awful, fucking pointless.
krtek a houby
Saoirse don Phalaistín!
For a moment there, I thought you were talking about the England match...
is Saw any good, good story etc? I see its on Freeview tonight
wtfftw
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Animal Crossing The Movie?
Sadly I just had a little look and it seems to be a cartoon.
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
There was a great twist at the end, but if it's on Freeview - it will be cut too shreds.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
IIRC, Blockbuster (among other places) did stock the so-called 'documentary' entitled 'Executions' back in the late 1990's. 'Executions' claimed to be an expose of the realities of capital punishment, rather than simply being the genuine gorefest crammed with footage of various real-life executions (which included genuine footage of someone being stoned to death) that it actually was.
Despite containing footage that made even me (a crime writer from a military family) feel really quite appalled, and despite the fuss that was made about said film at the time of its release, it was a very big seller as I recall.
So, sad fact though it undoubtedly is, there's undoubtedly a pretty large market for even the most gratuitously unpleasant of films these days.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
I saw Hostel 2 a few weeks ago....now, thatwas bad! But I liked something about the way they filmed it, it looked kind of cool.
stereotypical
hospitality king
Pussy.
Its just a cautionary tale about obnoxious backpackers coming to a sticky end with abit (and only abit) of torture thrown in.
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
I have never seen "Executions" but I did sit thought most of a "video nasty" called "Faces of Death" in the 80s.
I didn't enjoy it at all, but I sat through it because sitting and watching FOD with your friends in the 80s was a kind of rite of passage. You were meant to watch it and not be sick, look away, whatever, to show that you were tough and grown up.
These days kids have a shorter rite of passage that seems to consist of watching 2 Girls One Cup while their friends film their responses and put them on youtube.
I think the main market for "executions" is probably traumatised ex forces people who struggle with untreated / undiagnosed PTSD and who find comfort in watching this stuff possibly because it alleviates a sense of loneliness. It reassures them that they are not alone in witnessing terrible things and that other people have seen it (and filmed it) too.
It may also provide a sense of mastery over overwhelming anxieties relating to violent traumatic experiences in that the experience of the horribly violent thing can be controlled, turned on or off via a remote control. This can make people feel that "I know where it is" (in the telly) and this may reduce the anxiety that the dangerous / violent thing lurks hidden away anywhere and everywhere.
I do not believe that watching this stuff is in any way therapeutic. I'm just saying that I can imagine the reasons why some people watch this stuff.
I remember watching a TV documentary about the website Ogrish (or was it Rotten?) and its history and it turned out that the founder was ex military and that almost all of the regular users were ex military. The majority of the photos and videos on the site were provided by military and ex military people and there was a huge underground network of military and ex military people exchanging such photos. They interviewed some of these people and they were clearly trying to manage their PTSD by exposing themselves to such material. It was very sad.
I do not believe that films like Saw or Hostel have much in common with films like Execution or FOD.
I saw some footage recently of the Nigerian police murdering people by shooting them and it left me feeling very upset for days. There was no gore, no exploding eyeballs, just innocent people made to lie down on the ground before being shot.
To me, the violence in Hostel (at least most of it) is so over the top, unrealistic and squelchy that it is almost comedic. The underlying menace of the narrative about trafficking and the consumption of human beings is far, far more scary.
some Itchy and Scratchy as food for thought
http://videos.sapo.pt/hidWyCbroCWLghHq9yrO
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Only a bit of torture - great!
My point is I don't advocate censorship, and if this sort of thing floats your boat, then you should be free to watch it.
Just wondering why people would pay to see people being tortured?
I like Glee, no doubt many on here do not.
Horses for courses?
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Great post. Maybe I am just a big girl's blouse?
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Yeah, those real snuff movies that don't exist. Hostel was a pretty good example of the "group of idiots get mashed up, one of them gets dubious revenge" genre. You saw the cover, you saw the quote from The Mirror advertising it as the goriest movie you'll ever ever see* (or something), why did you watch it?
* they've obviously never seen Braindead
Haven't seen, and have no desire to see, this recent-ish crop of 'torture porn' (or whatever the media calls it) films, but just wanted to say Braindead is fucking hilarious. I have it on VHS somewhere
What was that other one he did? Wasn't as good as Braindead.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
bad taste
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
A modern classic.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
violence is dramatic and exciting. people like this.
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
I like violence in films like Predator or Die Hard 4. And again if people want to see films like this, then I have no objection.
Just I don't get the appeal of torture as entertainment. But, like I said, if it floats your boat.......
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
people in peril will always be a subject for cinema
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Hostel was definitely meant to be partly satirical - whether it managed to do it well or not, I don't know (most people seem to think not, which was the bit which put me off watching it, not the "omg eyeball!" reviews). It's pretty common with the grotesque - e.g. 120 Days Of Sodom.
stereotypical
hospitality king
Cos we know we're not actually watching people being tortured and indeed wouldnt want to watch anybody being tortured (which when we watch these films we're not). Its the drama effect. Why would we want to watch somebody die of cancer (e.g. like what happens in soaps sometimes) or somebody lose everthing they have and end up a prostitute (again happen in soaps), surely this is just as difficult to explain as to why these things attract audiences? In a way its probably more terryfying and grim because these things actually happen and are a reflection on reality whilst gore and torture is pure farce.
Catharsis. Watching these films drastically changes our emotions, we feel fear and it thrills us because we know ultimately we're safe.
Roman circus for a modern age (but nicer and more humane).
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Why do people get on rollercoasters? All those scary corners.
100% masahiko
i is a professor and is magical like totoro
Hostel - omg, when that Japanese woman had an eyeball hanging out. That made me laugh cos it's so damn outrageous. When I first saw those scenes, I said 'that's fuckin' impossible. For one you'll be out cold from shock and the nerve endings to the eye, it'd be so painful you couldn't move." And there she was running around town - til she caught a reflection...
Then I realised that's the whole of point Hostel.
The Dir is a funny guy...
Yeah Pt II is superior, but Pt I is sweet.
Then I realised that's the whole of point Hostel.
The Dir is a funny guy...
Yeah Pt II is superior, but Pt I is sweet.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Human suffering is entertaining.
I don't really get much out of those films, but they look like a lot of fun to make.
I don't really get much out of those films, but they look like a lot of fun to make.
