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Horizon: 'How mad are you'? on BBC 2 now

I watched this on iPlayer - a bit uneven, but looking forward to the next bit to see what else comes out. I think it is doing a good job of challenging preconceptions and making people think again about how they might perceive mental illness.
 
Probably reading too much into this, but I was struck by the fact that the all male panel of experts predominantly selected women as the ones they thought were mentally I'll :hmm:
 
the panel were shit. they got them all wrong, it didn't prove anything except that i respect mental health 'experts a little bit less than i did
 
I watched the final one last night. I couldn't believe that irritating little scrote Stuart was pimping himself again and blabbing and dare I say boasting about his struggle with bipolar. It's people like him that give the mentally ill a bad name. I have read his story in the paper, seen it on some other programme, read about him going on a ride or jog for charity or some damn thing whilst being sponsored by his starbucks regulars.

I wanted to shout at the telly 'You're bipolar, so what? Do you consider that your talent? Or that you are 'special and different? Just grow a pair man!!!!'

....but I couldn't as I live in a block of flats with very thin walls.:(
 
I did enjoy it. But I also agree with the posts about dumbing down of Horzon which is a shame.

It used to be one of my favorite progs on TV but over the last maybe 2 years seems to have been increasingly dumbed down to almost on par with that of channel 5 medical documentary/freak shows like: "the boy with no head and no toes and no willy".

Whilst I found the programme interesting, I think they could have delved into WHY it is that people fail these psycological tests more often if they are mentaly ill. How drugs help etc etc. The balls from the pot, and the cards with the sequence tests being particularly interesting.

Shame really cos while I found it to be alright (mainly cos I have an interest in mental ilnesses and find them utterly fascinating), and it managaed to just keep my interest just about through the whole thing, I still think it appears to be lacking in interesting informative information, the type of which you can't just look up on wikipedia and immediatley understand.

People that don't want to watch documenteries, wont - no matter how celebrity obsessed and dumbed down they become (ie, the horizon on beuty productes :rolleyes:).
So it doesn't matter how much producers dumb down docummenteries, cos thier new targets won't watch them anyway - while the old ones just get bored and turn over.

:( shame. Cos like I said before, I used to really love this show and would NEVER miss it. It's just a bit crap now.
 
I did enjoy it. But I also agree with the posts about dumbing down of Horzon which is a shame.

It used to be one of my favorite progs on TV but over the last maybe 2 years seems to have been increasingly dumbed down to almost on par with that of channel 5 medical documentary/freak shows like: "the boy with no head and no toes and no willy".

Whilst I found the programme interesting, I think they could have delved into WHY it is that people fail these psycological tests more often if they are mentaly ill. How drugs help etc etc. The balls from the pot, and the cards with the sequence tests being particularly interesting.

Shame really cos while I found it to be alright (mainly cos I have an interest in mental ilnesses and find them utterly fascinating), and it managaed to just keep my interest just about through the whole thing, I still think it appears to be lacking in interesting informative information, the type of which you can't just look up on wikipedia and immediatley understand.

People that don't want to watch documenteries, wont - no matter how celebrity obsessed and dumbed down they become (ie, the horizon on beuty productes :rolleyes:).
So it doesn't matter how much producers dumb down docummenteries, cos thier new targets won't watch them anyway - while the old ones just get bored and turn over.

:( shame. Cos like I said before, I used to really love this show and would NEVER miss it. It's just a bit crap now.

Agree with all this.

There were some great episodes about the mind, pre-dumbing down. Derek Tastes of Earwax being an excellent example
 
But the Rosenhan experiment has been covered recently :-

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Th...avclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2DVFC_enGB214GB215

This seemed to me to be a valid test of whether things have improved since... and rather brave of the shrinks participating in the programme.

Adam Curtis is a very interesting doc maker.I would like to see this again.Thanks for showingit out on sale.

However Horizon could have looked at more recent Neuroscience etc instead of this which I thought was just feelgood and cursory.
 
I watched the final one last night. I couldn't believe that irritating little scrote Stuart was pimping himself again and blabbing and dare I say boasting about his struggle with bipolar. It's people like him that give the mentally ill a bad name. I have read his story in the paper, seen it on some other programme, read about him going on a ride or jog for charity or some damn thing whilst being sponsored by his starbucks regulars.

I wanted to shout at the telly 'You're bipolar, so what? Do you consider that your talent? Or that you are 'special and different? Just grow a pair man!!!!'

....but I couldn't as I live in a block of flats with very thin walls.:(

You make a good point.People with mental health problems can be just as irritating as everyone else.I suffer from depression on and off and I must say I find BiPolar people really annoying.I think its because the public have been convinced these people are creative genius types.Its an "exciting" mental illness (see Stephan Frys programme after which various Celebs "came out" as BP sufferers:rolleyes:).Back in the 60s so was Schizophrenia.Its not now (they are more likely t be labelled dangerous) .Fashions change.

What also irritated me was the banter between the doctors and volunteers about how "brave" and "supportive" everyone was.This psycho babble permeats everything but explains nothing.

Also what about those who dont "bravely" deal with there "illness".Are they weak or just ill?

I found the guy with OCD more irritating.He wanted to be an ambassador for OCD-At one point he said he was "proud" of his OCD.Well ive met a few OCD people and they are this self obsessed.

I found Yasmin the most sympathetic character.But then she also suffered from depression and was the character I had most in common with.She was a good team player with no big ego-unlike certain others there with mental health issues.
 
I think all in this would have been better if you'd just made it a reality show and stuck it on BBC3 where in the underlying message that "people with mental health problems are the same as everyone else" might have got through to some people to whom that would be news.

Horizon shouldn't be about this.
 
The people being 'brave' really annoys me. WTF does it actually mean? Oh the fury :mad::mad::mad: I'm mad alright, but not mad like most of those sad bastards :D
 
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