CyberRose
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I'm not doubting that (altho I completely support her health policy)
What I was referring to above is your assertion that she'll alienate the entire world because they like Obama!?
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What I was referring to above is your assertion that she'll alienate the entire world because they like Obama!?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
It's innately tied into her behaviour as first lady, sorry it's early Friday and my clause control isn't up to much.
Clearly, as someone with good people skills as demonstrated by her handling of the HC plan, it would be a good idea to send her out into the world to alienate foreigners who would otherwise support BHO in the same way she alienated Dems over HC.
Better?
Clearly, as someone with good people skills as demonstrated by her handling of the HC plan, it would be a good idea to send her out into the world to alienate foreigners who would otherwise support BHO in the same way she alienated Dems over HC.
Better?
CyberRose
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I understood what you meant I just don't really know how you managed to come to that conclusion!
You mean she was bossy to people over health care so she'll be bossy to diplomats as well?
I'd also point out she only just missed out on becoming Presidential candidate, so perhaps she didn't alienate as many people as you think?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
It was meant as a small joke, clearly it failed.
CyberRose
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Yes, yes it did
gorski
customised free radical
I think it should have been said in a non-English manner, i.e. not semi-seriously, vaguely [and badly!] disguised as a joke, for whatever reason...
I mean, broadly speaking, it's a standard form of behaviour in the UK, as most are afraid to have any opinions, since one is immediately branded "opinionated" and whatnot... It's much better to be "unsure", "sit on a fence", "wait and see", "joke about xyz in a light-hearted manner" but never state what one really thinks...
That's the general mode of behaviour, hedging one's bets, never "exposing oneself" and if one does it one does it privately, so that one "will deny it" if push comes to shove....
Does anyone know why do the English behave in this manner for sure, other than the class system explanation, where the "confidence" is only left to those upper classes, "borne to rule", educated from public schools, best universities and whatnot... and the rest... are "unsure", since not as well educated etc. etc.
She IS bossy and full of herself, eye, she is!!! It's bloody obvious!!! She is also prone to lying as far as her tongue would carry her. NOT trustworthy at all!!! Her "ideas" about healthcare are - I stand to be corrected here but from what I saw - "realistic" only, her foreign policy is awful, from Bosnia to Kosovo and so on... So, wtf?!?
I mean, broadly speaking, it's a standard form of behaviour in the UK, as most are afraid to have any opinions, since one is immediately branded "opinionated" and whatnot... It's much better to be "unsure", "sit on a fence", "wait and see", "joke about xyz in a light-hearted manner" but never state what one really thinks...
That's the general mode of behaviour, hedging one's bets, never "exposing oneself" and if one does it one does it privately, so that one "will deny it" if push comes to shove....
Does anyone know why do the English behave in this manner for sure, other than the class system explanation, where the "confidence" is only left to those upper classes, "borne to rule", educated from public schools, best universities and whatnot... and the rest... are "unsure", since not as well educated etc. etc.
She IS bossy and full of herself, eye, she is!!! It's bloody obvious!!! She is also prone to lying as far as her tongue would carry her. NOT trustworthy at all!!! Her "ideas" about healthcare are - I stand to be corrected here but from what I saw - "realistic" only, her foreign policy is awful, from Bosnia to Kosovo and so on... So, wtf?!?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Nah, it's my fault for badly wording it in the first place.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
How would you know that, o wise one?
Er, he's a Democrat - they're not exactly socialists - just not as right wing as the Republicans
gorski
customised free radical
OKI, no big deal, K. but the point stands. All my non-English acquaintances and friends agree on the general point I raised how the English power play around each other, dancing on eggshells all the time...
And she is an awful bully, as she is just in love with power, she is also a liar etc. etc.
And she is an awful bully, as she is just in love with power, she is also a liar etc. etc.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Nah, it only looks like we're dancing on eggshells to the outsider. It's generally used to prevent people from becoming 'too big for their boots' IME...
CyberRose
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She just tried to go for President! Of course she's in love with power as are probably every other US politician!!
gorski
customised free radical
No, it is as I described it, it's just that the English don't know of any other way, so it's "natural" to them...
If not, than it's "superior" to the jolly foreigner, as they are - needless to say it but... - "uncivilised"...
As anything foreign must be, since "Best because it's British" is the rule of thumb...
If not, than it's "superior" to the jolly foreigner, as they are - needless to say it but... - "uncivilised"...
As anything foreign must be, since "Best because it's British" is the rule of thumb...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Are you living under the raj or something gorski?
gorski
customised free radical
Nah, she's in the grip of it beyond words and it is ruling her, not the other way round... Sad when you see anyone so lost when she is losing...
gorski
customised free radical
i think thats already assumed
Johnny Canuck3
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Stuff like this
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Maybe it's all a trick!
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
His politics are right wing and imperialist. Of that there is no doubt.
.Johnny Canuck3
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Well, no doubt!
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Hein?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Link?
looks like Hillary has accepted the SoS positon
its not "official" yet but both camps are saying its almost a done deal
I think Obama is playing a smart move by keeping her where he can see her. He won and not only does he want to rub her nose her in it, he wants to tell her what to do in a way that he wants. Hilary Clinton needs to consider not only the post, but the reasons behind it. He's in a win win situation if she turns it down he can say he offered the olive branch of friendship, if she takes it up then he can keep an eye on her.
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