Hi res Mars pics!!

[Signal 11]

Why take the word of one over all the others?

 

[xes]

Cos one has the experience,and has now been told it's ok to talk about it (he now no longer fear to talk about it,as it says in the article) And it's not over ALL the others at all.There are plenty of people who don't think we're alone. It's over the "official" story where we're all alone in this massive cosmos we're in. But they know better than that,as we'll all find out soon.

 

[Signal 11]

Cos one has the experience

No he hasn't. He does not claim to have witnessed them himself. He claims that he has been given the information by someone whom he trusts. (Source is someone who has asked him: http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theories/65876-astronaut-weve-had-visitors.html#post1089580)

He has also explicitly stated that he never witnessed them and is not aware of any other astronaut witnessing them:

[neither] I, nor any crew I was on (I was on three Apollo crews), received any briefing before or after flights on UFO events, saw anything in space suggesting UFOs or structures on the Moon, etc.

Skeptical Enquirer, 2002

and has now been told it's ok to talk about it

Told by whom? And what is your source for this claim?

(he now no longer fear to talk about it,as it says in the article)

He has been making exactly the same claims for years. There is no reason why he should fear anything except ridicule for talking bollocks.

There are plenty of people who don't think we're alone.

Straw man. NASA does not claim that "we're alone".

It's over the "official" story where we're all alone in this massive cosmos we're in.

Provide a citation of this alleged "official story".

 

[xes]

No,because such links probably don't exist. But as nasa have not yet come out and said "we are definatly not alone,here's the proof" Then they're still lying cunts. Cos they've gots the proof.

 

[Signal 11]

Cos they've gots the proof.

Provide evidence that they have.

 

[xes]

Provide evidence that they have.

if I,or anyone had solid evidence,then there would be no conspiracy.This is a conspiracy,so no actual evidence exists,or if it is out there,it's been debunked by people on the telly box,saying it's fake. They're just reading from a script.) I do not have the evidence,though I have myself on 3 different occasions,seen very strange things in the sky that can't be explained by our normal planes or heilicopters. I would accept that they could have had "made on earth" bumper stickers on them.

I trust my instincts and my own eyes,cos everyone else could be liars.

now,how long are you going to sit there asking me for evidence I don't have?

Cos we could do this all day if you like,I've pretty much done my work for the day. You won't change my beliefs,and you won't change my opinion on nasa. never a straight answer.

 

[Signal 11]

if I,or anyone had solid evidence,then there would be no conspiracy.

If you have no evidence, withdraw your baseless accusations.

I have myself on 3 different occasions,seen very strange things in the sky

It's not at all unusual for people to see things in the sky and not know what they are seeing. That is in no way evidence of space-aliens.

I trust my instincts and my own eyes,cos everyone else could be liars.

So far you've been caught in several lies on this thread alone, but despite all your wild accusations you have not provided any proof that anyone else has lied.

 

[xes]

Lies

No,I won't withdraw it. I will stand by what I believe.

 

[Signal 11]

He's also clarified again since the interview that this is nothing to do with NASA:

LISA BONNICE: The interviews are quoted as saying that you say sources at NASA who had contact with aliens…

EDGAR MITCHELL: That is totally false.
[...]
LB: What do you think of NASA’s statement that “Dr.Mitchell is a great American but we don’t share his opinions”?

EM: I can understand if they think I was attributing anything to the NASA organization, or deriving anything from the NASA organization, they can certainly say that. And it’s true because none of my experience or what I said relates to NASA at all.

http://blog.blogtalkradio.com/2008/07/24/dr-edgar-mitchell-sets-the-record-straight/

 

[Aldebaran]

No,because such links probably don't exist. But as nasa have not yet come out and said "we are definatly not alone,here's the proof" Then they're still lying cunts. Cos they've gots the proof.

What is not known cannot be said. NASA doesn't know, nobody knows, but I'm a star and I never saw an UFO passing by. Take my word for it that there are right now no Aliens on their way to Ultimate Encounter.

Now quote me on other forums and say that you heard it from someone you trust 100%.

salaam.

 

[panpete]

All very nice, but we've otherworldly places, like Alaska for instance, right here on earth.

 

[editor]

Hardly on a par with Mars for 'other worldliness'.

 

[camouflage]

What is not known cannot be said. NASA doesn't know, nobody knows, but I'm a star and I never saw an UFO passing by. Take my word for it that there are right now no Aliens on their way to Ultimate Encounter.

Now quote me on other forums and say that you heard it from someone you trust 100%.

salaam.

You're a star alright, a big fat bag of hot gas held together only by your own gravitas.

 

[camouflage]

Hardly on a par with Mars for 'other worldliness'.

The operative word being 'other'.

Mind you there are certain substances that can totally 'other world' even somewhere like Hackney.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I have to admit that I find this absolutely fascinating. I remember the moon landing and to me this is fabulous. Well done America, this is what we want to see you use your technology for rather than wars on Earth. Sadly I suspect there is a military agenda also at the back of the reason for funding NASA, but let's leave that out of it while we enjoy the vicarious ride to Mars.

 

[xes]

All very nice, but we've otherworldly places, like Alaska for instance, right here on earth.

oh come now,yes,Earth has some places of outstanding beauty,but it all feels,so close to home these days. I'd love to see what the views a like on Olympus Mons. Not only the highest mountain on Mars,but in out solar system.

And Aldebaran,old bean,how can I trust you,I don't even know you. You,just like me,only have what you believe to be true to go on. I think the facts are distorted,and I think nasa lie. (there,I said "I think" before my statements. Does that appease the pedantic nit picking freaks of urban )

 

[Aldebaran]

You're a star alright, a big fat bag of hot gas held together only by your own gravitas.

Admit it, you're fascinated by the quality spectacle I give you. For free

salaam.

 

[agricola]

I have to admit that I find this absolutely fascinating. I remember the moon landing and to me this is fabulous. Well done America, this is what we want to see you use your technology for rather than wars on Earth. Sadly I suspect there is a military agenda also at the back of the reason for funding NASA, but let's leave that out of it while we enjoy the vicarious ride to Mars.

Lets hope they do actually get the chance - should Obama win (as seems likely) there will be a five year delay on manned spaceflight by the US, which will almost certainly kill it off altogether:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jul/26/spaceexploration.spacetechnology

 

[Aldebaran]

And Aldebaran,old bean,how can I trust you,I don't even know you. You,just like me,only have what you believe to be true to go on. I think the facts are distorted,and I think nasa lie. (there,I said "I think" before my statements. Does that appease the pedantic nit picking freaks of urban )

Who... I'm only at the start of discovering my full potential, can't know where that leads in the end.

There is nothing like "truth", all is limited withing the frame of human perception. You perceive the NASA as "lying" for some reason, while I have no incentive to follow that line of thinking because for the reasons I stated.
(well the star part you can gloss over, let's not get all serious there )

salaam.

 

[Signal 11]

Does that appease the pedantic nit picking freaks of urban

Challenging your false accusations is not "pedantic nit picking". And "freaks" is a far more apt term for UFO believers than it is for those of us who can distinguish between fantasy and reality.

 

[Mooncat]

there will be a five year delay on manned spaceflight by the US, which will almost certainly kill it off altogether:

Which IMO can only be a good thing. Manned space flight is willy-waving of the very highest order and has little or no scientific benefit (for now)

 

[agricola]

Which IMO can only be a good thing. Manned space flight is willy-waving of the very highest order and has little or no scientific benefit (for now)

You should be banned.

Manned spaceflight is the reason why we should be in space; as that Grauniad link suggested, had they kept going with Apollo, made further developments and refinements we could be well into the solar system by now.

 

[Mooncat]

You should be banned.

Manned spaceflight is the reason why we should be in space; as that Grauniad link suggested, had they kept going with Apollo, made further developments and refinements we could be well into the solar system by now.

So? - If it wasn't for all the money pissed up the side of a solid rocket booster shooting meat-bags into LEO we'd be talking (at least) about the Titan Pathfinder or the Europa Pathfinder right now.

 

[Signal 11]

should Obama win (as seems likely) there will be a five year delay on manned spaceflight by the US, which will almost certainly kill it off altogether

It sounds like he's changed his mind on that:

"I know it’s still being reported that we were talking about delaying some aspects of the Constellation program to pay for our early education program,” [Obama] said. “I told my staff we’re going to find an entirely different offset because we’ve got to make sure that the money that’s going into NASA for basic research and development continues to go there. That has been a top priority for us. This is an administration that’s been anti-science. Whether it’s on stem cell research, whether it’s on climate change, they have rejected science. I want to reverse that trend, I want us to be a science-based society and I want us to invest in science.”