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teuchter

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It's of relevance to herne hill folk as it'll be visible from much of HH. It's also a continuation of precedence-setting for high rise buildings in the area. There are sites in HH being eyed for similar proposals.
 
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jimbarkanoodle

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New plant based restaurant opening in Herne Hill today

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I was going through Herne Hill on the bus recently and noticed a crowd of well heeled, 'brunch types' huddled around a shop intently reading and discussing a sign in the window and taking photos of the shop front. It was this place. I had a feeling it wouldnt be the type of place to get me all hot and bothered with a name like 'Peachy Goat' (very cool!), and well that is definitely now the case, having seen the menu.
 

jimbarkanoodle

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The best deal there must be £16 for some spaghetti and cream sauce. There isnt even any fake meat involved. literally a food that was traditionally eaten by poor shepherds, now served up in Herne Hill for £16 a portion.
 

editor

hiraethified
You can pretend you're eating real food.
Or you can enjoy a tasty nutritious product that isn't the result of cruelty and slaughter and is less detrimental to the environment.
As for the daft 'real food' nonsense, loads of world class vegans seem to do pretty well out of a non 'real food' diet.
 

editor

hiraethified
The menu is not very sustainable or particularly exciting - asparagus in February?
No different from most other expensive restaurants in the area, I imagine.
Does their blurb make any claim to them being 'sustainable' (notwithstanding the fact that a vegan diet is almost certainly going to be more sustainable than a meat based one)?

I'm not defending them though - their prices seem well steep, and serving up non seasonal food suggests that they could think this through better.

I wish all these nu-businesses could be more like Cafe Van Gogh. Brixton’s not-for-profit Cafe Van Gogh launches crowdfunder campaign to create more space for trainees
 
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goldengraham

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Why are so many vegan restaurant menus so heavily dependent on fake meat options?
Fake meat is largely aimed drawing in meat eaters who want to eat less meat. Even in a veggie restaurant, it's a good idea to have something that tries to present itself to meat eaters. The reality is that people who go out to eat tend to be in mixed omnivorous/veggie/vegan groups and they want a range of appealing stuff on the menu, which is why tapas/meze style places are doing so well at the moment
 

Rushy

AKA some / certain posters
Fake meat is largely aimed drawing in meat eaters who want to eat less meat. Even in a veggie restaurant, it's a good idea to have something that tries to present itself to meat eaters. The reality is that people who go out to eat tend to be in mixed omnivorous/veggie/vegan groups and they want a range of appealing stuff on the menu, which is why tapas/meze style places are doing so well at the moment
I am one of these meat eaters who has steadily been eating less meat over the years (although I did just have a really rather lovely piece of lamb for Valentine's lunch). I barely eat any meat substitutes at home (occasionally Quorn mince for a bolognese or chilli-quorn-carne). I entirely agree with you that it's a good idea for a veggie restaurant to have something that presents itself as meat to the meat eaters. However, on this menu two of only three dishes in the"mains" list are fake burgers and fake sausages. The other three dishes which can be taken as mains are all fake pasta with either fake cheese or fake meat.

Does a vegan restaurant really need to have its offering almost entirely dictated by meat eaters who they presume cannot even stomach the idea of eating vegetarian food for one evening? Even though I have lately been pretty impressed by fake meat (the similarly priced vegan burger at Honest was delicious) I don't find a mains menu of fake meat a draw in the slightest. Vegan and vegetarian cooking can quite literally be anything. It is such a disappointment to find that this one is all fake cheese, fake meat and fake pasta. Mimosa before it had more vegetarian and vegan options.

I took a vegetarian friend to the Vegan place which at one time replaced Brazas on Tulse Hill. On the front of the menu was a picture of a beautiful looking salad. But you could not actually order it. Everything was fake fried chicken wings, fake burgers, fake sausages, fake cheese on toast etc.. We all felt gross once we'd left.

That said, I've no objection to their offering other than that, even though I would welcome a good vegetarian restaurant, it is not particularly appealing to me.
 
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