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Herne Hill news, chitter chatter and gossip

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by choochi, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. gaijingirl

    gaijingirl Well-Known Member

    My mum called me from London (I'm overseas atm) simply to tell me she's boycotting The Commercial who apparently charged her £9.35 for a large glass of chardonnay. Can that be right? She claims she queried it and it's on the price list.
     
  2. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Could be if it was a 250ml glass.

    How much of a lush is she?
     
  3. gaijingirl

    gaijingirl Well-Known Member

    It was a 250ml. :D
     
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  4. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    I'm struggling to understand the implications of this (speed reading isn't my strong point):

    Public meeting with Southwark Council on the development of Bath Factory Estate - Wednesday 19th April

    "As you may be aware, Southwark Council is at consultation phase over all of the development sites across the borough for the New Southwark Plan. Specifically relevant to Herne Hill residents is the significant piece of land and properties that run between the railway bridge at the bottom of Half Moon Lane and all the way to Rosedale Road, facing onto Brockwell Park as Norwood Road and backing onto the railway line. This area is the Bath Factory Estate and has been highlighted as a development opportunity for further residential as well as commercial properties. You can read more here. The formal deadline for feedback is 28 April."

    And the link just takes you to a map:
    Herne Hill and North Dulwich - Southwark London Borough Council Consultation Hub - Citizen Space

    But you need to click the hyperlink within that ^^ to get to the actual text which seems to be proposing:

    Redevelopment of the site must: • Contribute towards the small business cluster in Herne Hill providing at least the amount of employment floorspace currently on the site; • Provide a new link to Half Moon Lane to improve the permeability and legibility of the site; • Provide high quality active frontages at appropriate ground floor locations, including in the arches of the railway viaduct. Redevelopment of the site may: • Provide new homes on upper storeys facing Brockwell Park.
     
  5. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    It's basically proposing this whole stretch of one-storey shops can be redeveloped, adding on an extra storey(s) and including housing. Plus redevelopment of the little lane behind, so that it becomes a through route that pops out either end.

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  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Sounds like the usual 'let's boot out the independent businesses and get a wanky developer in for more of the same shit' jargon. I hope this doesn't impact on Crispy 's venture. :(
     
  7. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    It almost certainly will. They say they'll maintain the same amount of employment floorspace on the site (2,553 m² in the arches and associated sheds), but it'll go from all B1 (light industrial) to a mix of A1 (retail), A2 (services), A3 (food and drink), A4 (drink), B1, D1 (public services), D2 (entertainment). And you just *know* they'll push any B1 use back between the two railways where the public won't want to go.

    It'll take a while to sort out all the various subleases accross the site, and any development will be in the planning/design stages for some time too, but in the medium term I am not hopeful.
     
  8. Nanker Phelge

    Nanker Phelge Monkey Boy

    Wouldn't be nice if they could 'develop' without raising everything to the ground and starting over.
     
  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    If there's anything I can do - publicity/promote any petitions you start etc - please drop me a line. I'm fucked off with this endless crushing off independent/alternative businesses and ventures.
     
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  10. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Best thing to do is to make comments on the application, saying that light industrial is a crucial part of the local economy and it's becoming increasingly hard to find. The existing B1 use of the estate should be *protected* not watered down.
     
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  11. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Is the parade of shops along Norwood Rd part of Network Rail territory or is that in different ownership?
     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    How about you draft a template letter that addresses all the salient points (so people ca make valid objections) , and I could run that on Buzz when you're ready?
     
  13. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    The stuff linked to above is a consultation on planning policy rather than an application for permission for development, right? But definitely worth pushing for something like you say to be written into policy before any applications are made.

    What happened on the Higgs estate was that they allowed classification as "B1 or B2" (B2 being office space) so they could say that they weren't removing B1 space, even though they were in reality because you could see that what was designed with B2 rather than B1 in mind.

    Adding housing along Norwood Rd will provide a motivation for landlords to decrease B1 use because of associated noise, mess etc. Something also worth mentioning in any response to the consultation.
     
  14. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Correct
    Absolutely. Much easier to get this sort of protection in now before any heavyweight developers are throwing their weight around.
    Yes indeed
     
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  15. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    We'll see what they've got to say at this consultation meeting first I think.
     
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  16. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    oh shit. I think that its quite recently that those shops are finally all let, when for years there were loads of voids. I'd be interested in attending any planning meetings. Please keep us informed.
     
  17. Ms T

    Ms T Honey-coloured ramparts

    Deliciously Ella is married to Tessa Jowell's son apparently so that might explain why we've been graced with her presence in Herne Hill.
     
  18. Lizzy Mac

    Lizzy Mac Well-Known Member

    Good reports from the dry run.
    I suspect it's another place that I'll rarely be able to afford but I am curious and will try it.
     
  19. technical

    technical stripey

    I got charged £9.75 on Saturday in the Half Moon for a large white wine (for my other half)
     
  20. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    ouch!
     
  21. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Graced? can't say I feel blessed.

    Always got her confused with with Harriet Harmen. If there was ever an identity parade of female labour mps I'd have a really hard job picking her out.
     
  22. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    ouch! with shit toilets.
     
  23. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    Are yours that bad? The gents have been hamlet stickered already I see.

    The garden was fun last weekend as most people had gone away for the weekend, which made it reasonably quiet, and it's an ok suntrap.

    It's just the Florence in a bigger space though isn't it?
     
  24. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Ladies loos in Commercial are not great, but the Florence is a cheche and I don't generally want to feel like a grandma.
     
  25. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Dropped into the halfmoon for one this afternoon. NO REAL BEER! they had just had a delivery and apparently that meant there would be no real beer for the next 20 mins (why? 12 pumps no beer?) so we foolishly plumped for a pint of keg each (1 bullfinch and 1 pride) I held out a £10, but it WASN'T ENOUGH! £10.95 for 2 pints of keg. NOOOOOO!
     
  26. BoxRoom

    BoxRoom Flip.

    Fucking hell!
     
  27. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Popped in on Sunday and came out £13 lighter for a pint of Hepcat and a large Pinot. The Hepcat was £5.30. It retails at between £3.90 and £4.30 at our regular (fairly gastro) pubs in West Norwood. I raise my eyebrows at £8 for a large glass of wine in the West End and it wasn't even the most expensive on the menu. I'll be more careful with what I order another time.

    In summary they've done a lovely job on the interior but the prices are a pisstake.
     
  28. Sister Midnight

    Sister Midnight Well-Known Member

    HELP! My beautiful & much loved cat Tilly has gone missing. Think she slipped out the front door just after midnight Friday into Saturday. She's scared of traffic etc so wouldn't normally wander but isn't hiding in the front or back gardens, nor the neighbours' as far as I can see. Really worried she's been hurt or taken. She has hypokalaemia - without her meds she'll eventually die. So it's vital she's found asap. I'm beside myself. Please look out if you're in SE24 area (Norwood Rd between Brockwell Park & Tulse Hill gyratory). Any advice welcome.[​IMG]


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  29. Sister Midnight

    Sister Midnight Well-Known Member

    I've put posters up, done Facebook & Twitter posts, national pet register. Will do shelters, council and vet when open tomrw.


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  30. Lizzy Mac

    Lizzy Mac Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the Herne Hill Forum. I'm out all day in the area tomorrow and will keep everything peeled.
     

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