Help.

[zoltan]

I googled it and found the site, but they need a login and they don't have a register option for me to sign up on.

I'll look up the Bloomberg finance terminology page too.

Thanks for the help.

Will have to chase up the city recruiters tomorrow then.

By tier one banks do you mean the likes of GS, Citi, JPMorgan, Bank of America, USB etc...?

USB ?

 

[zoltan]

PS I am a bitter and twisted fuck.

 

[Kanda]

PS I am a bitter and twisted fuck.

Selling your soul tends to do that

 

[London Boy]

Um.

having sold my black rotten soul to the city some time ago, I would strongly advise you to do some thinking and research on this and although the possible money may seem attractive, it is a very very bad motivator long term.

As Mr Blade asked above, Why HF ?

Yes they are in all the papers & the term HF seems freely tossed around as a synomym for unbridled riches, but do you actually know that these lot do ? ( There arent actually very many HF about TBH & those that are , are usually pretty discreet- but the term is used to lump all kinds of funds and whatever - usually wrongly).

My knowledge of the finance services industry is not at the level of those who work in it or use it, but I do have a rough idea on all the different type of services, why they exist, who uses them etc...

I read the financial press, always have out of pure interest.

Without serious skills & an MBA/Phd from Oxbridge /LBS etc harvard, you will be pushing it getting into GS at anyhing other than an admin / ops rols - and even that will be tough.

That thought has crossed my mind.

If this turns out to be the case, if I need a degree to get to where I want, then I have thought of taking a lowly job in the finance sector and possibly having to do a night course university degree. A friend of mine told me of Birbeck College, which does university courses for people in full time work.

Remember - You can never earn enough money - you taste will go up with your earnings,as does your spending

I know. I would just like to see how far I could push myself. Nothing wrong in that and as I said before, I have been through some poor times and have always been under pressure and stress from never having enough money to even have a work life balance. I want to at a minimum get enough money to have my own house (own a house, not a mortgage), maybe another property as an investment (do a buy to let), have spare money to have holidays, a car, help out my family (get my mother out of council housing) and whatever else there is.

Very few people are in a position to retire at 35 , despite what you read in the Evening Substandard.

Even if I did not retire early, at least I know that by 55 or 60, I won't be in a shit job thinking where did my life go. My worst idea is to go to my grave not making something of my life, not having the high standards that many people who work hard have in their lives.

Like I said, I just don't want a average wage life with all the stress of money, no home that is mine etc...

Whoever said money is not important or that life can be great without money is talking absolute shit.

 

[zoltan]

"Whoever said money is not important or that life can be great without money is talking absolute shit."

You will fit in well in EC4 .

 

[London Boy]

You seem to disagree with that, why?

Without money, what can you do in life. Travel, see friends, go out with friends, have a pet, have a home thats yours, socialising, help out your family and friends, all of those things need money.

True money is not the only thing, I love my friends and family.

But with money I could help out my family, get them off the estate they have to live in, help my brothers go to university and make something of their lives as there no dad to help them out. Is wanting to give something back to the people who gave me everything they could according to their means a bad thing, I don't think it is.

Why should people not have nice lives and enjoy money, whats with this moralising money/wealth=bad outlook some people have?

Like I said, being poor is not fun, I know and want out of it.

 

[lights.out.london]

The money is an (obvious) trade-off for the sacrifices a [City] firm expects of its people.

I don't think it's a moral issue; just a question of choices around quality of life.

 

[hammerntongues]

Don`t ignore commodities , from my experience ( 30 years ) they are are far more level headed and less inclined to be impressed by higher education , you still need to get your foot in the door but if you show initiative and the ability to talk at all levels , including bullshit , you are halfway there. travel and overseas placings are better too.

Commodities Appointments has a website

 

[zoltan]

You seem to disagree with that, why?

Without money, what can you do in life. Travel, see friends, go out with friends, have a pet, have a home thats yours, socialising, help out your family and friends, all of those things need money.

True money is not the only thing, I love my friends and family.

But with money I could help out my family, get them off the estate they have to live in, help my brothers go to university and make something of their lives as there no dad to help them out. Is wanting to give something back to the people who gave me everything they could according to their means a bad thing, I don't think it is.

Why should people not have nice lives and enjoy money, whats with this moralising money/wealth=bad outlook some people have?

Like I said, being poor is not fun, I know and want out of it.

Im not critisising you - dont worry!

Im trying to say that Money - as much as it seems attractive when you are on the bones of your arse - isnt enough in the long term.

I could get you an IV here for a couple of positons got going, but the guilt would give me sleepness nights

 

[hammerntongues]

Im not critisising you - dont worry!

Im trying to say that Money - as much as it seems attractive when you are on the bones of your arse - isnt enough in the long term.

It gives you choices .

If you are an arse without money you will be an arse with it.

 

[zoltan]

It gives you choices .

If you are an arse without money you will be an arse with it.

so true

 

[zoltan]

H&T - You soft, hard or precious ?

 

[hammerntongues]

Soft , I trade oil , Veg not mineral , I started out in Tea !

Big volumes for edible , animal feed and more recently Biodiesel

 

[A Dashing Blade]

If this turns out to be the case, if I need a degree to get to where I want, then I have thought of taking a lowly job in the finance sector and possibly having to do a night course university degree. A friend of mine told me of Birbeck College, which does university courses for people in full time work.

Tbh, given that IB's can recruit from the global cohort of graddy's, you realistically need, at the absolute very least, straight A's in everything + first from a (globally) top uni to get be a graddy trader these days.

How's about saving the dosh & trading pa yourself from home?

 

[zoltan]

Tbh, given that IB's can recruit from the global cohort of graddy's, you realistically need, at the absolute very least, straight A's in everything + first from a (globally) top uni to get be a graddy trader these days.

How's about saving the dosh & trading pa yourself from home?

Operaitons temping is a foot in the door if thats what you want

its possible to move up to trading if you have the drive and brains

theres millions of Grads trying to get in to the city now - maybe temping and keeping yer eyes open may be the way forward

 

[A Dashing Blade]

Operaitons temping is a foot in the door if thats what you want

its possible to move up to trading if you have the drive and brains

theres millions of Grads trying to get in to the city now - maybe temping and keeping yer eyes open may be the way forward

Was thinking the same thing myself