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My post asked a question, is Debian with its massive install base bloatware?

Me said:
Its mostly free, open-source programs that do what they set-out to do. They're supplied on disk just in case you don't have a net connection and can be installed/uninstalled with a simple package manager. Rather than pay-for-play monsters with features no-body uses and all blasting out adverts. You'll also find modern Debian distros don't require 2gb on RAM to look good.

You answered by telling me that I didn't know anything about Linux.

It was tongue-in-cheek, (hence the smilie) but if you can't tell the difference between Microsoft bloat-ware (ie Office) and open-source programs, perhaps you don't and need to educate yourself about Linux *is*...?
 
It was tongue-in-cheek, (hence the smilie) but if you can't tell the difference between Microsoft bloat-ware (ie Office) and open-source programs, perhaps you don't and need to educate yourself about Linux *is*...?

I know how to answer a yes no question.

I use the same book that Linus Torval did at the same time he did for the same course, Operating Systems 101. Different Universities. I didn't spend the time typing in the listings in the book like he did and then debugging them.

I've used Linux every few years since then. Currently running Ubuntu, which is slow and difficult to use.

UNIX and all its variants are difficult to use, its part of the UNIX way apart from one very notable exception. OSX, which shows it can be done, just nobody in the open source community has got around to it.

9Gb install base, is that bloatware?
 
UNIX and all its variants are difficult to use, its part of the UNIX way

And somehow windows isn't difficult to use? There's no objective measure for whether something's easy to use or not, so please can we avoid the whole argument? It sounds very much like you're used to working with windows and the windows way of doing things and are having difficulty adjusting to a new mindset. Nowt wrong with that, just don't ascribe it to something being inherently hard to use.

9Gb install base, is that bloatware?

Not quite sure where that's coming from, but my last Debian install added up to about 400MB in total.
 
I've used Linux every few years since then. Currently running Ubuntu, which is slow and difficult to use.

It depends on the hardware you're using. We generally find Ubuntu performs slightly better than Xp, and a lot better than Vista on the same hardware.

UNIX and all its variants are difficult to use, its part of the UNIX way apart from one very notable exception. OSX, which shows it can be done, just nobody in the open source community has got around to it.

The success of Ubuntu indicates you are generalising. Yep, Ubuntu isn't as easy as other o/s, but a fair few people find it non-difficult. Additionally the majority of developers here are now using Ubuntu as a development platform. (The choice is between Xp + Ubuntu)

9Gb install base, is that bloatware?

I don't think you've read my previous replies, or are being deliberately obtuse. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I urge you look into what comprises that 9 Gb.

Anyhow, I thought this was about Vista...? :confused:
 
That's just about the most idiotic thing ever posted on this forum :D

You recon? :D

I have 2 PC's

A CPU=600MHz, 256Mb mem, Win 98

B CPU=75MHz, 48Mb mem, Win 95

B boots and runs faster.

A runs faster now I've downgraded it from win 2K

Windows = bloatware. :p
 
Just for fun, kids!

Macbook Pro, week old: 32 Seconds from on to use
eeePC Running XP: 39 Seconds from on to use
Vista desktop with 650 quid quad core processor, 4GB 1600mhz DDR3 memory, erm... 1 minute 15 from on to use.

I can't believe I just did that on a Friday night. :o
 
Just for fun, kids!

Macbook Pro, week old: 32 Seconds from on to use
eeePC Running XP: 39 Seconds from on to use
Vista desktop with 650 quid quad core processor, 4GB 1600mhz DDR3 memory, erm... 1 minute 15 from on to use

Pocket calculator, zero seconds from on to use OMG!
 
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