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comstock said:
Yeah but this is only an end of first year exam....could they not use the same resit paper other students have used?

No.

If you sit an exam paper after everyone else has sat it, the university has to take the view that you COULD have seen a copy of the paper (even if you haven't), and thus gained an unfair advantage over the students sitting the resit. The univerity has to take steps to prove it treats all students fairly.
 
Pickman's model said:
yr advice might be worth listening to, if you'd offered any instead of condescending wankery.
Please don't quote him, otherwise it makes him being on my ignore list a bit pointless.
 
Have you raised a grievance through the university system?

You would need to supply copies of the emails sent asking for information, and copies of any comunications you have received fro the University over the summer, such as exam results information, which you should have received in writing.
 
Pickman's model said:
yr advice might be worth listening to, if you'd offered any instead of condescending wankery.

Well, there was:

jæd said:
I know this isn't what you want to hear but I think you resign yourself to taking at least a year out of uni. Take some time to get some money together so then when you do go back you'll have a phone. You'll also do much better in your exams if your not constantly skint.

But the guy seems to be doing equivilent of sitting in a corner, back towards everyone else, with his fingers in this ears.
 
5T3R30TYP3 said:
You obviously remain firm in the belief that I "couldn't be bothered", although why you believe that is a mystery to me.

Due to your multiple posts/threads about not really wanting to be at uni, not feeling motivated, the whole thing being pointless, etc etc.

You knew the uni weren't going to just give you the info, and you knew that info was on the website. Not much more to say if you can't accept some responsibility for not finding it.
 
LostNotFound said:
Due to your multiple posts/threads about not really wanting to be at uni, not feeling motivated, the whole thing being pointless, etc etc.

You knew the uni weren't going to just give you the info, and you knew that info was on the website. Not much more to say if you can't accept some responsibility for not finding it.
the simple fact of the matter is that 5T3R30TYP3 should have been sent the information he needed in good time to attend the exam. it shouldn't have been left to a phone call. i'm not surprised he's shown signs of not enjoying university if this is the shoddy way he's treated the rest of the time there.
 
a) does the uni have your correct address?
b) how did the other students doing resits find out about their exams?
 
Pickman's model said:
the simple fact of the matter is that 5T3R30TYP3 should have been sent the information he needed in good time to attend the exam.

Uni quote - "Registry do not send out individual timetables.". So the uni doesn't proactively send out timetable information. Are you suggesting that a special case should have been made for 5T3R30TYP3, or that a policy change is needed in general?
 
Pickman's model said:
when it comes to exams, my experience has always been that the people sitting the exam are sent information about it by the people organising the exam.
From my experience, universities don't 'send out' information for exams. This information is posted on notice boards, outside lecture theatres or common areas. Although it does seem that 5T3R30TYP3 has had trouble finding such information.

5T3R30TYP3 - do you want to return to uni? In your OP it seemed you didn't? How many resits did you miss?
 
LostNotFound said:
Uni quote - "Registry do not send out individual timetables.". So the uni doesn't proactively send out timetable information. Are you suggesting that a special case should have been made for 5T3R30TYP3, or that a policy change is needed in general?

Hmm... I forgot about this e-mail, which was sent to me before any of the other emails I have pasted on this thread:

From: "[subject leader] (Dr)" <[****@***.ac.uk>
To: [my email addy]; [another professor]@***.ac.uk
Date: Aug 17 2005, 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: summer resits

"Dear Lee

The information is all on evision which refers you on to WOLF. [actually, there was nothing on WOLF and the only thing on evision was "advice to students taking resits", not the actual timetables]
You need to check with Registry the actual times, dates and rooms of any exams. [As mentioned in previous posts, I phoned the registry and they wouldn't give me the info].

[subject leader]"

I also recieved an e-mail from my module coordinator saying that I should have been sent a timetable at the beginning of August (looks like I've stupidly deleted it) - so why have I been given such conflicting information?
 
By the sounds of it, you're on the wrong course. If you don't find it intellectually stimulating then I doubt you're doing it right, or they're doing you right. They don't sound like good communicators for a start.

Have you ever considered transferring your credits to another institution/course and being a bit happier? You'll be less likely to be sitting resits if you're happy on the course, feeling like you're going somewhere.

In the meantime, if you aren't going to jack it in altogether, which would be a shame after all this work so far, in the meantime it's imperative that you save this year just gone. I'd make a very loud noise at the Union, be ultra-efficient and turned-out, but baffled and confused and angry at the way you've been treated. No-one, it appears, has written to you, or spoken to you personally, despite you being told exam timetables would be sent to you. Having a phone shouldn't be a prerequisite to education, and academia is notoriously poor at administration and personalised service. Why shouldn't someone write to you personally, you're paying thousands for the course!?

Can you save the pages of Wolf, to show there are no timetables there?

Save all your emails (don't delete any stupidly!), and any between you and the Union.

At the very least, start knowing your rights as regards exclusion from the Uni, so you can be prepared for the worst, including impact on fees, loans, any grants you might get, etc.

There's bound to be some scepticism here about your role in missing the exams, but that isn't very helpful right now. What I would say is (having been exactly where you are, in the sense of drifting into shit with a Uni) is that if you do manage to salvage the day, it'll be an annoying slog of interviews and cajoling, and explaining, and forms, etc. And then when they let you back on, you might look around and wonder what the hell the fight was all for, because you're just as unhappy as you were before the shit happened.
 
5T3R30TYP3 said:
My Reply:

Dear [subject leader],

I can assure you that [divisional secretary] did not phone me personally about the EA1009 resits - she actually left a message [only one day before the exam] with someone at my parents' house, where I no longer live.
:mad:

And that is your problem - you did not inform the university of a change of address or keep a contact telephone number operative. We have students just like you each year. They do the summer exams, bggr off thinking the Summer is there to play with, and then act shocked when they find out they failed something, had resits, missed them, and have to wait 9 months.

I'd be surprised if your uni didnt inform you in writing of either a) your results b) any referral/resit work that needs doing. Most universities know that students arent around over the summer so posting things on a board is not taken as delivery of information.
 
Nadle said:
And that is your problem - you did not inform the university of a change of address or keep a contact telephone number operative. We have students just like you each year. They do the summer exams, bggr off thinking the Summer is there to play with, and then act shocked when they find out they failed something, had resits, missed them, and have to wait 9 months.

I'd be surprised if your uni didnt inform you in writing of either a) your results b) any referral/resit work that needs doing. Most universities know that students arent around over the summer so posting things on a board is not taken as delivery of information.
Jesus, not more finger-pointing. I'm not here to argue about this, but just to clarify: I do keep in regular contact with my parents, they send me all my mail on the day they recieve it, I phone them regularly, and I do visit them at least once a fortnight. I didn't choose for my phone to break and I didn't choose not to be able to afford a new one, neither did I choose for the uni to phone me up a day before the exam (and actually it was jut ONE exam that they tried to phone me about, so I would have missed the other exams anyway). If my uni had made ANY reasonable effort to contact me or inform me of the dates of the exams, then I would have known the dates of the exams. And if you actually bothered to read the whole thread, you would find this:
5t3r30typ3 said:
Also, I was told that the resits would be the week ending august and beginning september (the week beginning monday 29th september), and it turns out that they were the week before that...."
Two lecturers told me, in these words, "the week ending august and beginning september". I am not psychic, so how was I meant to know that the exams actually took place the week before I was told they would take place?

But hey, you get students 'just like me' every year. So that means you must be right, and I must be wrong!
 
Nadle said:
And that is your problem - you did not inform the university of a change of address or keep a contact telephone number operative. We have students just like you each year. They do the summer exams, bggr off thinking the Summer is there to play with, and then act shocked when they find out they failed something, had resits, missed them, and have to wait 9 months.

I'd be surprised if your uni didnt inform you in writing of either a) your results b) any referral/resit work that needs doing. Most universities know that students arent around over the summer so posting things on a board is not taken as delivery of information.

Short point on this. My uni have kept my old mobile number on file for 4 years. It changed in my first month there and each time I've noticed it appearing on documentation I've filled in a change of contact details form. Be interesting to see if it turns up on this years enrollment form.
Just because some students dont keep their uni up to date don't assume it applies in every case.
 
5T3R30TYP3 said:
But hey, you get students 'just like me' every year. So that means you must be right, and I must be wrong!

Points noted. :o

I think that this a symptom of the current HE eduction system. It's becoming (become?) a market economy. Students expect to be treated a certain way because they see themselves as customers and the people who work in universities are having a hard time adjusting to this.

The climb in numbers of students means that staff in universities have little choice but to treat students, at times, the same way as NPower, BT and Tescos. Not necessarily lecturers, but admin staff. One dissatisfied customer in several thousand is not really a problem....sad but true.
 
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