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HBO picks up 'Treme' - New David Simon drama

Watched E2 last night. I've gotta be honest - I'm not really feeling the love yet.

It's a little worrying that after 3 hrs, I still don't really care for any of the characters yet:
The muso's (Davis & the busker couple) are just plain irritating at the moment.
As is Restaurant woman.
John Goodman & his wife are far too hand wringing.
Even Freemon & Bunk are a bit meh so far, tbh.

I know slow burners are what Simon & HBO do, and this is ensemble, but I wouldn't mind a little bit of tightening up in the next couple of eps.
 
second ep was pretty good as a soap, nothing spectacular. But it is a HBO show. Ep 3 or 4 normally gathers the strands.
 
******** Note: Possible spoilers for Episodes 1-4 ********​


OK, i've watched the first four episodes now (haven't watched last night's ep. 5 yet) and i'm starting to get into it.

It's not as gripping as the Wire (and even with The Wire, i didn't really get hooked until episode 5 or 6), and it doesn't have the same sort of compelling story arc, but i like the stories, i like the music, i like the politics (even if they are laid on with a heavy hand at times), and the characters are starting to grow on me.

The search for Ladonna's brother is a good window into the fucked-up state of post-Katrina law and order, and the way that people who often were not criminals at all got caught up and held just because it was the easiest thing to do, and because federal money was being paid to police departments for holding people. It was also good to see The Wire's Anwan Glover (Slim Charles) make an appearance. I hope we see more of him, if for no other reason than to hear him talk; he has a great voice.

Apart from the music itself, which is great, i also like the insight into the music scene. I'm not a musician, and i guess i never spent too much time thinking about the sort of community and the relationships that must develop in a place like New Orleans. I like the little stuff, like finding out that playing in the tourist traps on Bourbon Street is considered shitty work, and seeing the different opportunities that are available for different people. I like the personal and professional tension between the two buskers, with the guy clearly jealous of his girlfriend's talent and the fact that she is constantly getting asked to play with other people.

Got to agree with Pie 1 about the Steve Zahn character, Davis. Every time he opens his mouth, i just want to punch him in the face. Simon does a good job of conveying his complete lack of self-awareness, and at the same time his total self-centeredness. For example, after he's arrested in episode 3, he complains to his lawyer about the police, but it soon becomes clear that he was mouthing off at the cops and acting like a jackass, and even his black friend complains that Davis being an asshole almost led to the black guy getting arrested as well. In the last couple of episodes, Davis also had a couple of great exchanges with John Goodman's character.

I also like the little stuff about race and ethnic and family politics. For example, in episode 4 when Lorenzo asks Albert (Clarke Peters) not to say anything at the memorial service, because the dead guy's mother didn't approve of their Indian rituals. Or when Khandi Alexander's character, Ladonna, talks about the "7th Ward Creoles" of her husband's family who look down on her side of the family.

Despite everything i like about the show, it's not perfect. As i suggested earlier, there are a few places where you feel like you're being hit over the head with the politics, and where a little more subtlety might have improved things. Also, despite the fact that i really like the music, some of the more extended musical interludes sometimes make it seem a bit like a music video, and seem to be substituting for narrative. Still, if you're going to have music in a show, you could do far worse than the stuff they use.

As i said, it hasn't yet gripped me the way The Wire did. It probably never will, and i think that judging it by the standards of The Wire is probably not going to be fair to Simon, or to Treme. For me, also, The Wire seemed more real and immediate because i actually lived in Baltimore while it was showing, and the stories we saw on the show often mirrored the stories i saw on the news every night, and read in the paper. I had a real sense of where the events were taking place; i had been to, or driven by, many of the locations.

I think it really changes your relationship to a show or a movie when you can orient the story spatially in your head as a result of personal familiarity with the locations. When a character of The Wire talked about the Eager Street lockup, or about a murder at the corner of Division and Gold, i knew exactly where those places were, and could place them within the bigger story. I've never been to New Orleans, so when the characters talk about neighborhood names, i don't have the same sense of geography, or the same sense of the significance of locations. Maybe i just need to do some reading, and spend some time on Google maps.

Anyway, that's my two pennies. I'm definitely sticking with it, because it's still better than most of what's on TV, and i think it will only get better. My only long-term concern is whether the writing will maintain its quality now that David Mills has died.
 
I just got this and watched the first couple of episodes, quite like it. Spent most of the first episode playing 'spot the wire actors' (I even though the John Goodman character was Jay Landsman for a minute), agree the Steve Zahn character is an irritating twat but enjoying the whole thing (and loving the music) on the whole.

Anyone else found their way into this show since the OP?
 
^ starting on that channel on Friday 18th Feb - I believe it's a 'free' channel but does anyone know if it be on Freeview ?
 
^ starting on that channel on Friday 18th Feb - I believe it's a 'free' channel but does anyone know if it be on Freeview ?

Sky Atlantic forms part of Sky's Variety Pack of basic channels, which is available to TV customers from £19 a month. [C&P'd from Sky's Press Release]

Couldn't get into Treme, I'll have to revisit it at a late date. Half way through Boardwalk Empire at the moment and It is fantastic, always been a Buscemi fan though.
 
Anyone watch this? I really enjoyed it - watched with my 73 year old FIL who is a jazz musician who spends time in NO every year and he was pretty impressed, said it was authentic and enjoyed seeing so many people he knew from there.

Enjoyed the building of the different storylines, will be interesting to see how they develop - although like the Wire I prob missed half the dialogue, guess I'll get my ear in over time
 
is your FiL in the silver bell band?

i enjoyed the first couple of eps, but didn't keep following it (i was downloading it the day after broadcast in the US). now it's finished I'm planning on catching up at some point, although i'm conscious of the comittment it's likely to be.

the music is incredible, and i love how there's so many real people, just playing themselves. :cool:
 
Only just started this, two episodes in and it is not at all bad.
Am liking the music a lot and the characters look they they are going to expand.
 
Feel a bit guilty for not liking this as much as I feel I should, I'll probably download season 2 as a whole batch and watch it back to back later in the year.
 
Just started season 2 which (so far) am preferring to season 1.
I've finished Season 2 and i definitely preferred it to Season 1. It's rarely ever a fast-paced or action-filled show, but it has great characters and a compelling story (stories, actually), and the longer it goes, the more familiar you become with the whole thing. After Season 1, i thought "that was really good," but after season 2 i thought "that was great."
 
Watching season 2 now and love it!!
The music is amazing and I feel like I'm kinda washing through it with the story!
:cool:
 
It is a grower, took me about 6 or 7 episodes to get into it properly. Very glad we are going to get a season 3 (and possibly up to S5).
 
colbhoy said:
It is a grower, took me about 6 or 7 episodes to get into it properly. Very glad we are going to get a season 3 (and possibly up to S5).

Yes. I needed to get into it but now loving it. Season 2 is great watching. When will season 3 appear?
 
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