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Have I mentioned recently that Miranda Sawyer is an absolute arse?

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kyser_soze said:
(and this is what she means by 'designer lifestyle' - that 'design' is everywhere now)

that's sort of what i was thinking to (honest!) - every department store now has it's own "designer" clothing range, or "designer" home furnishings range, same with the big supermarkets. and the rise of home interiors programmes and all that, the democratisation of design...

kyser_soze said:
]Of course she UTTERLY misses the point that glass, steel and concrete and the 'industrial' look (i.e. exposed a/c ducting, brickwork) is as hackneyed and clichéd now as putting 3 ducks on flock wallpaper is twee. Just as this article has missed it's right time by about 10 years - if this had been written in 96 she'd have a point but now? I still love DR style scribings, but that's because I'm an old fucker stuck in the 90s aesthetic who finds the current clash between sk8r style graffitti and manga a bit hard to take.

yeah you can see that look in just about every high-street now. bars, clothes shops, hair and beauty salons, it's become as ubiqitous as cheap laminated flooring.

and DR's stuff from the 90s looks so dated these days, and so obvious, when once it was so... future :cool: ;)
 
Glass, steel and laminated flooring is the equivalent of linoleum and MDF fitted kitchens with enamelled skins were to the 1950s, plastics in orgnaic shapes were the 60s and brown and orange were the 70s...the 80s were the start of the glass and steel 'look'.
 
i really hate the sameness of every single block of "modern" flats. blue tinted glass, yellow brickwork, some exposed timber, white concrete/plaster/whatever the material is, curver roofing... so very fucking bland. so very "now".
 
Haven't read her since her utterly pants column in Time Out a few years ago. When she was away and her space was taken for a week by Andrew Mosby, I had the following published on the letters page:-

"Andrew Mosby pisses all over Miranda Sawyer. And he's a much better columnist."

They printed it under the pun-tastic headline "Urinary tract".:)
 
Is this the sort of bollocks you can expect from the 'New' New Statesman ? I was going to check it out but if this is the case I might as well buy one of those mags from the GraphicArt/architecture section that cost about 400 hundred squidlly's a piece and have done :rolleyes:
 
I haven't seen her for years.. she used to regularly appear on Question Time 10 years ago.. always found her quite amusing as she obviously wanted to appear 'cool' and down with da kidz.
 
Hollis said:
I haven't seen her for years.. she used to regularly appear on Question Time 10 years ago.. always found her quite amusing as she obviously wanted to appear 'cool' and down with da kidz.


well, she is quite cool and has years of music journo experience so is probably comparatively down with the kids, or would have been 10 years ago..
 
Bomber said:
Is this the sort of bollocks you can expect from the 'New' New Statesman ?

that and "accidentally" ripping off copyright images, photoshopping them badly, and using them inappropriately to illustrate articles and promote their magazine...

(goes back to waiting for cheque and apology)
 
Zoe Williams wrote an equally pointless piece in the NS about nostalgia as a growing industry a few weeks ago; she concluded with the startling revelation that people don't really like growing old.
 
milesy said:
i think it's an alright article. and i think she says "us" as in "everyone", and i do think that she knows that not everyone has a "designer lifestyle", i reckon her tongue was a in her cheek when she wrote that bit...

Doesn't she just mean we are all slaves of fashion whether we want to be or not?
 
Nah, she's commenting on how, if you look around, the world has a more shiny, polished and 'designed' feel to it in comparison to previous era (conveniently ignoring the 20s and 30s where design in the shape of modernism and the last great decorative art movement in design, Art Deco) from where you, yes you personally Mr Orang, drink to where and how you do your laundry, and attempting to graft an argument that Designers Republic and Factory records are somehow WHOLLY responsible for this state of affairs.

IE, typically miserable piece on design written by someone who has NO FUCKING IDEA what they are talking about.
 
well, when i said it was an alright article, i meant it was alright as in "i've read worse". oh, and it was alright if you ignored the glaringly obvious points that kyser has illustrated so eloquently above ^^^

;)
 
Hey, it got a halfway decent thread going innit?

And it's more up to the minute than my 'Lego Bible' malarkey...christ that was embarassing...
 
I blame 3D software - you can't even get a 'normal' shaped kettle or mop anymore. And everyone and their dog wants to be a graphic designer.

BTW isn't it time Urban75 was rebranded - its so 2001.

My missus wants to kiss her lips.
 
If u watch the '24 hour party people' dvd extra's there is one bit where she is in a room with other peeps and at one point she says something crap. She gets talked over, and she kind of just crumbles and her voice fades out as she realises no one cares.

its only a small thing that happens to most of us now and again in the company of other peeps chatting away in a room.... but its one for the collection none the less:)
 
kyser_soze said:
(conveniently ignoring the 20s and 30s where design in the shape of modernism and the last great decorative art movement in design, Art Deco)
Or, indeed, our entire architectural heritage up to that point. That age before shell-shock art elbowed its way in and banished the likes of St Pancras Station, the Palace of Westminster and, heck, even that little homage to some German geezer opposite the Albert Hall from our cities.

We have to be in the middle of one of the least adorned periods of history right now, only extravagant when compared to the barren planes of modernism. Embacing modernism with wiggly bits stuck on it does not extravagant era make.
 
Hollis said:
I haven't seen her for years.. she used to regularly appear on Question Time 10 years ago.. always found her quite amusing as she obviously wanted to appear 'cool' and down with da kidz.
She now has her own kid to get down with. So expect lots of articles on motherhood.
 
kyser_soze said:
Glass, steel and laminated flooring is the equivalent of linoleum and MDF fitted kitchens with enamelled skins were to the 1950s, plastics in orgnaic shapes were the 60s and brown and orange were the 70s...the 80s were the start of the glass and steel 'look'.

Laminate flooring is the best! Particularly when you have a four-month-old son who is able to piss twice his own length. A quick wipe and there you go! Pissless floor!

Anyway...er...design...er....as you were, people.
 
In that pic she looks like Drew Barrymore.

By the way, I can't stand the "boutiquing" of pubs, shops, gardens, etc, these days. Is character completely old hat? :confused:
 
I read her book about 'suburbia'. Fucking load of shit. Rich kid slumming it. I bet she pretended to be from Manchester in the '90's.
 
Is character completely old hat?

Define 'character' - some would hold that 'character' means a group of sour faced old soaks at the bar, soggy crisps for bar snacks, melting ice and 40 year old beer and blood soaked carpets with the accumulated smoke of 100 lung cancer victims smeared all over the wall...
 
dogDBC said:
I read her book about 'suburbia'. Fucking load of shit. Rich kid slumming it. I bet she pretended to be from Manchester in the '90's.

Correct! I rremember her making that very claim in her TO column.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
She writes, in the current New Statesman:

"all of us have designer lifestyles".

Do we, Miranda? Do we really?
So one phrase, taken out of context, makes her an absolute arse?
 
kyser_soze said:
Define 'character' - some would hold that 'character' means a group of sour faced old soaks at the bar, soggy crisps for bar snacks, melting ice and 40 year old beer and blood soaked carpets with the accumulated smoke of 100 lung cancer victims smeared all over the wall...

And this is unappealing, how? ;) :p
 
kyser_soze said:
The whole article is a thinly veiled plug for a new book on Factory - who does Sawyer know/shag who's been involved in the production of the book? - and another chance for someone to whine about album sleeve art 'not being as good as it used to be' (well Yes Miranda - because now so much album art is a pale imitation of old Factory sleevework) And FFS, she's demonstrating the classic half-informed view that graphic and interior/product/furniture design are the same thing. Factory may well have 'revolutionsied' albuim covers, but the movement toward steel, concrete and glass minimalism was underway for YEARS before this and had it's roots in the work of Le Corbusier, Mies van der Rohe et al - to say that Factory records album covers have had more influence than modernity or even Ikea in modern design (and this is what she means by 'designer lifestyle' - that 'design' is everywhere now)

Of course she UTTERLY misses the point that glass, steel and concrete and the 'industrial' look (i.e. exposed a/c ducting, brickwork) is as hackneyed and clichéd now as putting 3 ducks on flock wallpaper is twee. Just as this article has missed it's right time by about 10 years - if this had been written in 96 she'd have a point but now? I still love DR style scribings, but that's because I'm an old fucker stuck in the 90s aesthetic who finds the current clash between sk8r style graffitti and manga a bit hard to take.

i think you'd be hard pressed though to find the kind of design ethic that was employed in the hacenda layout... there was nothing like it at the time as is often quoted, whether it's true or not it's an oft repeated comment...
 
Maggot said:
So one phrase, taken out of context, makes her an absolute arse?
No. One typical phrase taken entirely in context confirms her to be an absolute arse.

Letter from self in current NS makes same point in admittedly unoriginal way.
 
She once spoiled a romantic night out at 3 monkeys resturant Herne Hill some yeays ago when all I heard all fuckin night was MS droning away about some shite or other to some cow eyed Morrissey lookalike Beau , using words like "Polemic" just loudly enought to fuck everyone in the place right off. Even the staff sheepishly grinned at us and shrugged at several points.

horrid vacuous woman:)
 
I've never liked her but even more so after seeing her interview Irvine Welsh in some Q&A thing in London a few years ago. I got the distinct impression she hadn't read many of his books (apart from maybe Trainspotting) and was completely busking it.
 
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