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Hatton vs Castillo

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  • Hatton Ko

    Votes: 13 39.4%
  • Castillo KO

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Hatton pts

    Votes: 13 39.4%
  • Castillo pts

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Who the fuck knows!

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Total voters
    33
Paulie Tandoori said:
I'd love to see him fight Mayweather and i'd feel quite confident now that he could beat him, provided he makes the same effort in his preparation.

He will and more I reckon.

I'm not an expert but if I was Mayweather I'd be thinking "there is no defence to a shot like that". It will make him drop his hands a bit and in general I think he will be more worried about what Ricky can do than the other way around. I hope it happens.
 
Mr Retro said:
I think if Mayweather now doesn't fight him it will look like he avoided Ricky. He has said how limited he thinks Hatton is so it will be if you think he is so poor fucking fight him then.

How the fuck is it going to look like that, exactly ? Is Tyson 'avoiding' Ibragimov, mayweather is retired and hatton has decided to start running his fucking mouth, again, despite the fact he had his chance to fight mayweather (before he moved up) on at least one occasion, possibly more.

Hatton is the king of duckers; Mayweather, Witter, Margarito, Collazo rematch and at the moment he looks like the kid who throws water balloons at everyone, then runs to his mum when someone throws one back.
 
Genghis Cohen said:
How the fuck is it going to look like that, exactly ? Is Tyson 'avoiding' Ibragimov, mayweather is retired and hatton has decided to start running his fucking mouth, again, despite the fact he had his chance to fight mayweather (before he moved up) on at least one occasion, possibly more.

Hatton is the king of duckers; Mayweather, Witter, Margarito, Collazo rematch and at the moment he looks like the kid who throws water balloons at everyone, then runs to his mum when someone throws one back.

Really? I don't see it like that. Tyson hasn't said he's going to do a number on Ibravimov has he?

Mayweather has said he is going to shut Hatton up for him calling him out on national tv, he's said Hatton can't box, he's not fought anybody etc. so if Hatton wants this fight he can easily make it look like Mayweather is avoiding him.
 
'If' Hatton want's the fight, he could just as easily price himself out of it again ($13m was it, he claimed to have wanted ? Proper toytown) or claim to be tired of america not 'accepting' him and go for witter in london or manchester which HBO have said they'll promote. If it's not at least Cotto or Gatti next, he's going to look like a proper mincer.

He may well be able to make it 'look' like mayweather has dodged him and the english will probably buy that, but it's after the event, not only did mayweather move up, he retired, it'd be complete madness to now try and claim mayweather is the ducker (though he did duck people, left his weight class with loads of unfinished business, the whole spinks business in particular, though he'd claim moving up to fight DLH 'absolves' him in some way.)
 
handy1 said:
Cotto would be credible Gatti not.

Yep. Gatti has been on the slide for some time, and after the humiliating beating which Mayweather gave him he can no longer be considered credible opposition for any fighter with pound for pound pretensions. Cotto on the other hand is another young, hungry fighter with a perfect record and a couple of respectable names on his record. He's a very credible opponent, and of the three big names at 147 (Mayweather, Mosely, Cotto) he's also the one Hatton has the best chance against. It would also be an absolute war, because both men are skilled brawlers rather than finesse boxers. There wouldn't be much in the way of speedy defence and counterpunching, but there'd be a whole lot of trying to knock the other guy's head off.

On the Mayweather-Hatton thing:

It's an incredibly attractive fight. Both are unbeaten and still in their prime. Mayweather is the man in the 147 lb division, Hatton is top dog in the 140 lb division. And for the first time serious money is available for this fight. Mayweather has much more name recognition from the general public than he had when he first hit the top of the pound for pound rankings. Hatton is suddenly much more credible after soundly beating his second top tier opponent, and has built a huge following in Britain.

There are plenty of reasons for the fight to happen, but also plenty of reasons why it might not. Money first of all. Someone making unreasonable money demands is the single most likely thing to kill the fight. Location is then a big issue - Hatton will want to fight in Britain, Mayweather, as the more highly rated boxer will see no reason why he should fight in the other guy's back yard. The referee will be a big issue - Mayweather will want a ref who actually referees and doesn't allow Hatton to wrestle.

Weight is another crucial point. Mayweather has just beaten De La Hoya at 154 lbs. He trains constantly and came in well under 154 for that fight, so he could probably make the limit two divisions down, but I doubt very much if he'd see any reason to do so. 147 is his preferred weight, he's the more highly rated boxer, why the hell should he drop two weight divisions to suit Hatton, particularly when Hatton has recently fought at 147 himself? Hatton on the other hand is already one of the physically smallest boxers at 140, which only becomes more of a disadvantage at 147. There's no way he would want to fight Mayweather at a weight where Mayweather's natural size advantage is emphasised. There's also the fact that Hatton's fight at 147 was widely regarded as the worst performance of his recent career.

I'd love to see it happen, but I won't believe it until I see it.
 
Nigel Irritable said:
Yep. Gatti has been on the slide for some time, and after the humiliating beating which Mayweather gave him he can no longer be considered credible opposition for any fighter with pound for pound pretensions. Cotto on the other hand is another young, hungry fighter with a perfect record and a couple of respectable names on his record. He's a very credible opponent, and of the three big names at 147 (Mayweather, Mosely, Cotto) he's also the one Hatton has the best chance against. It would also be an absolute war, because both men are skilled brawlers rather than finesse boxers. There wouldn't be much in the way of speedy defence and counterpunching, but there'd be a whole lot of trying to knock the other guy's head off.

On the Mayweather-Hatton thing:

It's an incredibly attractive fight. Both are unbeaten and still in their prime. Mayweather is the man in the 147 lb division, Hatton is top dog in the 140 lb division. And for the first time serious money is available for this fight. Mayweather has much more name recognition from the general public than he had when he first hit the top of the pound for pound rankings. Hatton is suddenly much more credible after soundly beating his second top tier opponent, and has built a huge following in Britain.

There are plenty of reasons for the fight to happen, but also plenty of reasons why it might not. Money first of all. Someone making unreasonable money demands is the single most likely thing to kill the fight. Location is then a big issue - Hatton will want to fight in Britain, Mayweather, as the more highly rated boxer will see no reason why he should fight in the other guy's back yard. The referee will be a big issue - Mayweather will want a ref who actually referees and doesn't allow Hatton to wrestle.

Weight is another crucial point. Mayweather has just beaten De La Hoya at 154 lbs. He trains constantly and came in well under 154 for that fight, so he could probably make the limit two divisions down, but I doubt very much if he'd see any reason to do so. 147 is his preferred weight, he's the more highly rated boxer, why the hell should he drop two weight divisions to suit Hatton, particularly when Hatton has recently fought at 147 himself? Hatton on the other hand is already one of the physically smallest boxers at 140, which only becomes more of a disadvantage at 147. There's no way he would want to fight Mayweather at a weight where Mayweather's natural size advantage is emphasised. There's also the fact that Hatton's fight at 147 was widely regarded as the worst performance of his recent career.

I'd love to see it happen, but I won't believe it until I see it.

Good post.

Don't know anything really about boxing except for being a big fan so don't flame this question if it's ridiculous: Given neither Matweather or Hatton give a fuck about world titles at this stage is there scope for them splittling the difference and fighing at 143.5?


The referee will be a big issue - Mayweather will want a ref who actually referees and doesn't allow Hatton to wrestle.
But who doesn't break it up when there is some legitimate close upstuff going on
 
Mr Retro said:
Good post.

Don't know anything really about boxing except for being a big fan so don't flame this question if it's ridiculous: Given neither Matweather or Hatton give a fuck about world titles at this stage is there scope for them splittling the difference and fighing at 143.5?


But who doesn't break it up when there is some legitimate close upstuff going on

I suppose catchweight is an option,or set it at 147,you can come in under like Floyd did (150 rather than 154)
 
Mr Retro said:
But who doesn't break it up when there is some legitimate close upstuff going on

Well that's what a neutral fan would like, but it isn't what either fighter would want. Mayweather would want a referee who comes down hard on holding, wrestling, grabbing and the like, legitimate or not. He would want the fight to be all about the silky skills, with as little of the rough stuff as possible. Hatton would want a referee who would let him treat the event like Wrestlemania.

That's not an attack on Hatton. Mayweather has significantly better boxing skills, which is no shame because Mayweather has significantly better boxing skills than anyone currently fighting. Hatton's chance is basically to rough him up and stop him from using his superior skills.
 
Nigel Irritable said:
Well that's what a neutral fan would like, but it isn't what either fighter would want. Mayweather would want a referee who comes down hard on holding, wrestling, grabbing and the like, legitimate or not. He would want the fight to be all about the silky skills, with as little of the rough stuff as possible. Hatton would want a referee who would let him treat the event like Wrestlemania.

That's not an attack on Hatton. Mayweather has significantly better boxing skills, which is no shame because Mayweather has significantly better boxing skills than anyone currently fighting. Hatton's chance is basically to rough him up and stop him from using his superior skills.

Can fighters influence the choice of ref? Or is it up to the council/association or whatever they are called?
 
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