Hatton Garden Safety Deposit Robbery

[Pickman's model]

Robbery has a max sentence of life, theft doesn't. Small but massive difference.

yeh but they have to catch you first.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

yeh but they have to catch you first.

Catch me? I never done it. Could've been anyone of 100 people, etc...

 

[BandWagon]

It's strange that the police didn't respond. I don't suppose it's even feasible that the gang interfered with the alarm so that the cops thought it was a false alarm, or somehow bribed the staff at the response centre?

 

[Belushi]

It's strange that the police didn't respond. I don't suppose it's even feasible that the gang interfered with the alarm so that the cops thought it was a false alarm, or somehow bribed the staff at the response centre?

Or that the Met don't know their arse from their elbow..

 

[brogdale]

It's strange that the police didn't respond. I don't suppose it's even feasible that the gang interfered with the alarm so that the cops thought it was a false alarm, or somehow bribed the staff at the response centre?

Check out Mrs Filth at the masonic ladies night...

 

[Sue]

Or that the Met don't know their arse from their elbow..

 

[Indeliblelink]

Does it mean the company owner or people who have had stuff nicked could sue the police for negligence for not turning up when they knew an alarm was going off?

 

[BandWagon]

Or that the Met don't know their arse from their elbow..

It's strange though. I saw some analysis on the news that the gang had to fix the lift so they could go down the shaft, lug in all the equipment including a diamond drill and a generator, drill through 2 metres of solid concrete (between 45 and 90 minutes) and then break open the boxes and make their escape. Surely they would have fixed the alarm too?

 

[emanymton]

It is true that if the police receive too many false alarms they stop responding, which they seem to be saying was the case. Which poses the question did the gang know this was the situation?

 

[brogdale]

It is true that if the police receive too many false alarms they stop responding, which they seem to be saying was the case. Which poses the question did the gang know this was the situation?

Shit! Dixon must have told them

 

[farmerbarleymow]

It is true that if the police receive too many false alarms they stop responding, which they seem to be saying was the case. Which poses the question did the gang know this was the situation?

I think it may be relatively standard practice to ignore repeated callouts. I think companies can pay for guaranteed callouts, but not sure how it works. I vaguely remember some stuff about this when I went for an interview with some shitty alarm place in Salford about twenty years ago.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's strange though. I saw some analysis on the news that the gang had to fix the lift so they could go down the shaft, lug in all the equipment including a diamond drill and a generator, drill through 2 metres of solid concrete (between 45 and 90 minutes) and then break open the boxes and make their escape. Surely they would have fixed the alarm too?

these are robbers not fucking elves

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Does it mean the company owner or people who have had stuff nicked could sue the police for negligence for not turning up when they knew an alarm was going off?

No.

 

[1%er]

It is true that if the police receive too many false alarms they stop responding, which they seem to be saying was the case. Which poses the question did the gang know this was the situation?

I think it is true, a number of years ago I met an old warehouse blagger who had retired to Natal, he said they used to put a bird in the building to set of the alarm and then sit in a van a watch to see the staff turn up to reset the alarm. After the alarm went off a couple of times people wouldn't reset it as they didn't want to be called out again, them he'd break in a rob the place.

Not sure if it was just "pub talk" but sounds like a good idea.

 

[two sheds]

I wonder whether the police not responding means that we'll all be paying for this.

Eta. as indeliblelink suggested

 

[Citizen66]

The police will have responded by now won't they?

Maybe insurance will refuse to pay out. Oh dear.

 

[emanymton]

Maybe insurance will refuse to pay out. Oh dear.

Now that would be hilarious.

 

[brogdale]

The police will have responded by now won't they?

Maybe insurance will refuse to pay out. Oh dear.

Many of the customers were using the facility to avoid paying insurance...for whatever reasons. Tough shit.

 

[xenon]

Many of the customers were using the facility to avoid paying insurance...for whatever reasons. Tough shit.

Heard in passing on radio, some of the victims didn't have insurance. I don't understand why because on a brief Google, DM article mentions a trader who feared he has £100,000's worth stolen but says it's insured. (Even if certain items somewhat irreplaceable.)

Why wouldn't you have insurance for such things. I mean, as lnog as I have afforded to, I've always had household insurance where ever I've lived. Family home was burgled 3 times. Everyone knows what's in Hatten Garden. It's been done before.

 

[brogdale]

Heard in passing on radio, some of the victims didn't have insurance. I don't understand why because on a brief Google, DM article mentions a trader who feared he has £100,000's worth stolen but says it's insured. (Even if certain items somewhat irreplaceable.)

Why wouldn't you have insurance for such things. I mean, as lnog as I have afforded to, I've always had household insurance where ever I've lived. Family home was burgled 3 times. Everyone knows what's in Hatten Garden. It's been done before.

If you insure an asset it is traceable.

 

[xenon]

If you insure an asset it is traceable.

Ah right, get you now. Yep, aw didhums.

 

[Indeliblelink]

I wonder whether the police not responding means that we'll all be paying for this.

Eta. as indeliblelink suggested

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...police-did-not-respond-to-intruder-alarm.html

Scotland Yard could face compensation claims running into millions of pounds after admitting that officers failed to respond to a burglar alarm during the Hatton Garden heist, insurance experts warned.

Angry jewellers who fear they may have lost a fortune when 70 safe deposit boxes were looted during a daring raid last weekend have warned they may sue the Metropolitan Police over alleged incompetence.
But it has emerged that the police could also face civil action from insurers seeking to recoup losses if they are forced to pay customers for stolen valuables.

 

[Coolfonz]

these are robbers not fucking elves

So we can rule out Elf involvement? All Elves? You seem very sure about that. Where were you on the night of the robbery?

 

[xenon]

So we can rule out Elf involvement? All Elves? You seem very sure about that. Where were you on the night of the robbery?

What about golums?... Gives us the preciousesss!...

 

[Indeliblelink]

Happened just before they brought in passport checks for people leaving the country too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32205970

 

[Ponyutd]

The video footage is pretty dramatic. Loading a white van on double yellow lines, in the middle of the day. They certainly held their nerves together. It looks like they haul a wheelie bin into the van. I wonder if it's full of loot?

 

[Pickman's model]

The video footage is pretty dramatic. Loading a white van on double yellow lines, in the middle of the day. They certainly held their nerves together. It looks like they haul a wheelie bin into the van. I wonder if it's full of loot?

not any more

 

[Pickman's model]

So we can rule out Elf involvement? All Elves? You seem very sure about that. Where were you on the night of the robbery?

rivendell

 

[Spymaster]

Heard in passing on radio, some of the victims didn't have insurance. I don't understand why because on a brief Google, DM article mentions a trader who feared he has £100,000's worth stolen but says it's insured. (Even if certain items somewhat irreplaceable.)

Why wouldn't you have insurance for such things.

It's not a good idea to insure stuff that you don't want people to know you've got (stolen or otherwise illegally held, or an asset that you're holding wealth in that you don't want to pay tax on at some point). So yeah, fuck 'em.

It's also the case that some people can't afford or are unable to obtain insurance (criminals).

 

[redcogs]

Brilliant! Some of 'the expropriators are expropriated'..

While the coppers sit and drink tea.