Hastings declared "the Shoreditch of Sussex and the UK’s New Art Hotspot"

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by editor, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    My deepest sympathies go out to friends in Hastings.

    http://theculturetrip.com/europe/un...ditch-of-sussex-and-the-uk-s-new-art-hotspot/
     
  2. plurker

    plurker tú no tienes la culpa mi amor que el mundo sea feo

    I thought Margate was the 'new Shoreditch', or was it the 'new Brighton'?
     
  3. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Ma
    Margate must have been the old Hoxton.
     
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  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Um. The De la Warr Pavilion is in Bexhill. I'm not convinced the author of that piece has actually been to Hastings.
     
  5. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    My main memory of hastings is going on a scout camping trip there. On a wander into town I thought I'd be all grown up and buy some coffee granules, but when I made a coffee with it I discovered it was coffee and celery flavour.

    I guess I have to take the blame for the shoreditchification of hastings, laying a precedent for trendy coffees, the gateway to champagne and fromage parlours.

    Sorry hastings :(
     
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  6. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    I'm sure the artists of hastings are looking forward to the influx of new residents who will price them out of the area.
     
  7. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    There have been lots of artists there for a fair few years. And people have been writing this kind of fluff article about them for a fair few years too. Hastings is just awkward enough to get to from London for an influx to be unlikely, I think.
     
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  8. souljacker

    souljacker A bit of skullduggery

    I've been to Hastings and I think it would benefit from the 'ification' of any town in the UK. Even the 'Bracknellification' of Hastings would be an improvemement.
     
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  9. el-ahrairah

    el-ahrairah forward communism, forward gerbils!

    *moves to hastings and starts a cat cafe*
     
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  10. el-ahrairah

    el-ahrairah forward communism, forward gerbils!

  11. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    I know at least 4 people from Brixton who moved there last year after being priced out here.
     
  12. OvalhouseDB

    OvalhouseDB Well-Known Member

    I am very encouraged that 'declaring' something means it will be so.

    This gives me hope and scope.

    <<makes list of things to declare>>
     
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  13. Sigmund Fraud

    Sigmund Fraud 893 all the way.

    I thought Folkestone was the new Brighton which opens up Margate to be the new Shoreditch, Ramsgate to be the new Hoxton and Herne Bay to be the new Kingsland road.

    In other news, Whitstable is the new Grimsby.
     
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  14. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

    (((Eastbourne)))
     
  15. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    I spent a weekend in Whitstable last summer. It's lovely apart from the huge cement plant that towers over the harbour.
     
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  16. plurker

    plurker tú no tienes la culpa mi amor que el mundo sea feo

    Does that mean Hastings is the new Brixton then, and not the new Shoreditch?
     
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  17. Plumdaff

    Plumdaff joy in people

    There's been a steady stream of Londoners into Hastings for years, not least the post war slum clearances, and more recently because it is one of the few vaguely affordable outposts in the South East. There's already lots of little antique shops etc, now the gallery on the seafront, and the Old town and West Hill in particular have been gentrifying for some time.

    I've a lot of friends down there and it's always retained a distinctive sense of place and character, largely protected by isolation. It has also suffered from comparative poverty and there'll be plenty in the town welcoming any influx of cash. I hope Hastings manages to hold on to its Hastingsness and hope I get down for a visit soon. If we'd stayed in the South East we'd probably have ended up there. Maybe that's the problem.
     
  18. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    My friend - who's lived there for years and contributed a lot to the local community - is currently in the process of being priced out of the town right now.
     
  19. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Could be :D
     
  20. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    That surprises me. House prices are still below their 2007 peak and rents are still comparatively affordable for the UK. A combination of poor roads, slow rail and a lack of jobs keeps the place cheaper.

    Hastings-St Leonards has changed a fair bit in the last decade. There have been a lot of people moving there from the rest of the UK and abroad. Money has been spent on the infrastructure, including a sizeable EU grant that went towards renovating the parks. The new college campus has brought much-needed jobs and young people into the town.

    It's vile, really, that these kinds of positive changes get spun into an excuse to drive the cost of living up by people like those that commissioned that vacuous article.
     
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  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    His rent is going up through the roof. It's a common enough occurrence as soon as a prestigious art space opens up in town.
     
  22. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    editor Everyone in London is being shoved out into the suburbs or out of London completely - the two examples below show the same property in Anerley with the same owners being put on the market in the first instance at £176K and the second instance £215K. I wouldn't be surprised if the first example was an ad put up this time last year and the other price seems more recent. Shocking.

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-24969864.html
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43409893.html
     
  23. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    The Jerwood is quite a small place, though. It's not been busy the times I've been past it.
    But that's depressing if rents there are going up considerably. It's a very recent thing, too. Essentially it is still a town with far more young people looking for work than there is work. And what work there is is mainly low-paid - tourism-related or care homes.
     
  24. RedDragon

    RedDragon "I am not one of your fans!"

    I've had mates move out to Margate and Ramsgate and two years on they're hating it but re-entry back into London is almost impossible.
     
  25. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    London's gone bonkers - even more bonkers. I still don't quite get where all the money is coming from.
     
  26. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    There is another big block near me, always flats to rent there and for sell, a 3 bed was about £150K - the very cheap end of the market - they are now selling for £195k. I'm just waiting to be priced out of London.
     
  27. trashpony

    trashpony Ovaries and tings

    Why do they hate it? The only people I know who hate it when they've moved here have got really greedy for space. They've considered buying somewhere quite a lot bigger than the place they sold in London but then realised by moving to a cheaper area, they can get somewhere fucking massive but the houses there are cheap because it's vile. There are lots of affordable but nice places round here.

    I do agree that with the way house prices have gone in London over the last few years, there's no way you could afford to go back once you go (if you're a property owner that is)
     
  28. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Same with Hastings (although 'affordable' is relative!).

    Thing is, the situation is so distorted now that for the price of a small ex-council one-bed flat in London, you can buy a three-bed house in Hastings. It's not just people who are greedy for space - it's people who just want a little space.

    I once dreamed a bit of starting a little community in Hastings. Five or six years ago, a 13-bed house with grounds was on the market for £550k.
     
  29. RedDragon

    RedDragon "I am not one of your fans!"

    It's the boredom they hate, not necessarily the town - and with Margate they've got Hemingway's Dreamland to look forward to (Wayne nor Ernest)
     
  30. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I think the absence of people is one of the things that can take a bit of getting used to.
     
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